From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id +8TMJVMg8WADRgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 07:59:47 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id YCICIVMg8WCmVQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 05:59:47 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5BA521522 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 07:59:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48534 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4Gsz-0008QQ-7m for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 01:59:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4GsU-0008PU-Sh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 01:59:14 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:54199) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4GsS-0001xa-5E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 01:59:14 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: lists@traduction-libre.org) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8AEFD1C0002; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 05:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Subject: Re: org-mode export to (latex) PDF From: Jean-Christophe Helary In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 14:58:59 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <55E03452-ACA2-405A-B041-A4A21548929E@traduction-libre.org> References: <5A0DCCA5-7B49-46CC-BD49-B5F0D46DA5B8@traduction-libre.org> <87pmvq8ef2.fsf@posteo.net> To: Stefan Nobis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.197; envelope-from=lists@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay5-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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You want Cyrillic. But what about Japanese, > Chinese, Devanagari, Tamil, Arabic etc? I doubt that there exists a > single font that supports all these scripts satisfactorily. The issue I'm pointing at is that we don't need "satisfactorily", we = need "good enough". There are a number of fonts that have 30k+ glyphs. That's good enough = for a lot of org-mode users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_font What we need is 1 or 2 well-documented settings where we specify: 1) the back end 2) the font It can be org proprieties, or extra elisp code, it doesn't matter. But = we need to have good enough PDF export out of the box. We're in the 21st = century. People expect (I know, free software, etc. but I'm not talking = about that) proper font support for PDF, and well-documented workaround = solutions. I don't mind going through the org=E2=86=92ODF=E2=86=92PDF route, but = it's a waste of time. Still, it works *well enough* so it's actually the = only viable option. --=20 Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune https://mac4translators.blogspot.com https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/