Re: lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO

[Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de>]

Am 12.03.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Loris Bennett:
> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
> 
>> Am 12.03.2015 um 09:03 schrieb Loris Bennett:
>>> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> Am 05.03.2015 um 09:02 schrieb Loris Bennett:
>>>>> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked
>>>>>> time for each meeting.  After a while I have lots of CLOCK
>>>>>> lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus
>>>>>> is on text below the CLOCK lines.  I started to use multiple LOGBOOK
>>>>>> blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with
>>>>>> clocking etc.  My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK
>>>>>> block when opening the headline (TODO).  That way I could hide older
>>>>>> entries from using screen space and instead see the text below
>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to
>>>>>> work?  Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Regards, Rainer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items
>>>>>> :LOGBOOK:
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] =>  1:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] =>  1:15
>>>>>> :END:
>>>>>> :LOGBOOK:
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] =>  1:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] =>  0:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] =>  0:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] =>  0:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] =>  0:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] =>  1:00
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] =>  0:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] =>  0:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] =>  1:45
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] =>  1:15
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] =>  0:30
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] =>  0:45
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] =>  1:00
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] =>  1:00
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] =>  0:45
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] =>  2:45
>>>>>> :END:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines
>>>>>
>>>>> I use two drawers:
>>>>>
>>>>> #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS
>>>>>
>>>>> When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to
>>>>> OLDLOGS.  Both draws only open when I TAB on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for
>>>>> my other time-keeping.  This is mainly because the one-minute resolution
>>>>> of the clocking is to fine for my needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you changed the clocking resolution?  If so, how?  Or are you just
>>>>> an amazingly accurate clocker?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Loris
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Loris,
>>>>
>>>> please check variable org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes in order to round time stamps.
>>>
>>> OK, thanks.  I'll have a look at that.
>>>
>>>> You are right, when I am in an org file the logbook drawers do not
>>>> open by default when cycling.  My use case: I am jumping to a headline
>>>> directly from an agenda item. "Tabbing" on that item jumps to the
>>>> headline and shows the complete contents, including drawers.  Not sure
>>>> why this is the case. I would like to have the same behavior as when
>>>> tabbing in the Org file directly. Can you confirm this is the same in
>>>> your setting?
>>>
>>> If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> * Stuff
>>> ** Fun...
>>> ** Boring...
>>>
>>> If I press 'tab', I get
>>>
>>> * Stuff
>>> ** Fun
>>>    :LOGBOOK:...
>>>    :OLDLOGS:...
>>> ** Boring
>>>
>>> If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens.  If I press 'tab' a third time,
>>> the heading fold back and I get
>>>
>>> * Stuff
>>> ** Fun...
>>> ** Boring...
>>>
>>> again.  I'm not sure why the second press performs no action.  In any
>>> case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and
>>> then press 'tab' again.  So quite different from the behaviour you get.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Loris
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rainer Stengele
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Loris,
>>
>> you do not seem to have CLOCK entries directly under the headline
>> "Stuff", to which you are jumping to from agenda.  Can you add a few
>> CLOCK lines in drawer and simulate this and tell me if these stay
>> closed or not directly after the jump.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rainer Stengele
> 
> I was actually jumping to "Fun" rather that "Stuff".  And "Fun" does
> have a draw full of CLOCKs.  What I don't have is a top-level heading in
> my agenda and I don't have any top-level heading which I clock into.
> 
> I could test this, but I would have to tweak my setup a bit more than I
> can do easily at the moment.  Do you think the level of the heading
> being jumped to makes a difference?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Loris
> 

I do not think the headline level makes a difference.
So I do take this as with our settings the CLOCK lines drawer is not opened when jumping from agenda to it.
I will need to recheck all my settings why this is the case here.
Thank you.
Regards, Rainer