Bug: Drawers question [8.2.10 (8.2.10-30-gca21b7-elpa @ c:/USR/FJM/APP/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150126/)]

Bug: Drawers question [8.2.10 (8.2.10-30-gca21b7-elpa @ c:/USR/FJM/APP/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150126/)]

[Francis J. Monari, Esquire]

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To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Bug: Drawers question [8.2.10 (8.2.10-30-gca21b7-elpa @ 
c:/USR/FJM/APP/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150126/)]
From: monarifjmk@verizon.net (F. J. Monari)
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The following questions are not bugs, but more policy / file structure
questions that arisen during my use of org mode.  I have not seen these
topics specifically address in the online manual or on the web.  To my
mind they are all part and parcel of properly structuring my file.  If
you need the questions broken out or restated, I can do that as well.


Questions about Drawers:
* Is it wise to have drawers with duplicate names under the same
heading?
e.g. several “:NOTEBOOK:” drawers that reflect notes taken from different
perspectives of the topic specified in the heading.
* I have noticed that in some respects list items identified by “- [ ] "
are second class citizens (they have some aspects of headings, but not
all).  Is it wise or recommended (in terms of the the development of org
mode) to place draws under these list items?
* Is it possible to specify a “canonical” order for drawers?
e.g. PROPERTIES first, LOGBOOK second, etc.
When org mode changes the file (I have noticed this with adding notes to
the LOGBOOK drawer), sometimes the LOGBOOK drawer “jumps” ahead of the
PROPERTIES drawer.
* Sometimes, when org mode changes the file (I have not noticed a
pattern), spaces are added after the “:END:” for the drawer.  Is this
normal or expected?

Personal information has been redacted from all the attached or included
files.

Thank you.

Frank.


Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See

      http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
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Emacs  : GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
  of 2014-10-24 on LEG570
Package: Org-mode version 8.2.10 (8.2.10-30-gca21b7-elpa @ 
c:/USR/FJM/APP/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150126/)

current state:
==============
(setq
  org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point 
org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
  org-src-fontify-natively t
  org-reverse-note-order t
  org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
  org-agenda-window-setup 'current-window
  org-tags-match-list-sublevels 'indented
  org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe 
org-src-native-tab-command-maybe
		      org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe org-babel-header-arg-expand)
  org-agenda-exporter-settings '((org-agenda-with-colors nil) 
(ps-print-color-p t)
				(ps-landscape-mode t) (ps-number-of-columns 1)
				(ps-paper-type (quote legal)) (ps-print-header t)
				(htmlize-output-type (quote css)))
  org-refile-targets '((nil :level . 3) (org-agenda-files :maxlevel . 3))
  org-modules '(org-checklist org-crypt org-contacts org-docview 
org-expiry org-gnus
	       org-habit org-id org-info org-mouse org-protocol)
  org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
		  org-cycle-hide-inline-tasks org-cycle-show-empty-lines
		  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
  org-agenda-custom-commands '(("lm" "Matters"
			       ((agenda ""
				 ((org-agenda-files
				   (quote
				    ("C:/ESQ/FIRM/USR/ESQ/FJM/DAT/DBF/ORG/fjm-esq-emacs.org")
				    )
				   )
				  )
				 )
				(alltodo ""
				 ((org-agenda-files
				   (quote
				    ("C:/ESQ/FIRM/USR/ESQ/FJM/DAT/DBF/ORG/fjm-esq-emacs.org")
				    )
				   )
				  )
				 )
				)
			       nil nil)
			      ("z" "Hierarchical" agenda ""
			       ((org-show-entry-below t)
				(org-show-hierarchy-above t)
				(org-show-following-heading t))
			       )
			      ("n" "Agenda and all TODO's"
			       ((agenda "" nil) (alltodo "" nil)) nil)
			      )
  org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
  org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook
			  org-babel-speed-command-hook)
  org-show-following-heading '((default . t))
  org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-children-or-siblings-or-parent)
  org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
  org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
  org-after-tags-change-hook '(org-expiry-insert-created)
  org-habit-graph-column 120
  org-insert-heading-hook '(org-expiry-insert-created)
  org-deadline-warning-days 7
  org-structure-template-alist '(("s" "#+BEGIN_SRC ?\n\n#+END_SRC"
				 "<src lang=\"?\">\n\n</src>")
				("e" "#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE\n?\n#+END_EXAMPLE"
				 "<example>\n?\n</example>")
				("q" "#+BEGIN_QUOTE\n?\n#+END_QUOTE"
				 "<quote>\n?\n</quote>")
				("v" "#+BEGIN_VERSE\n?\n#+END_VERSE"
				 "<verse>\n?\n</verse>")
				("V" "#+BEGIN_VERBATIM\n?\n#+END_VERBATIM"
				 "<verbatim>\n?\n</verbatim>")
				("c" "#+BEGIN_CENTER\n?\n#+END_CENTER"
				 "<center>\n?\n</center>")
				("l" "#+BEGIN_LaTeX\n?\n#+END_LaTeX"
				 "<literal style=\"latex\">\n?\n</literal>")
				("L" "#+LaTeX: "
				 "<literal style=\"latex\">?</literal>")
				("h" "#+BEGIN_HTML\n?\n#+END_HTML"
				 "<literal style=\"html\">\n?\n</literal>")
				("H" "#+HTML: "
				 "<literal style=\"html\">?</literal>")
				("a" "#+BEGIN_ASCII\n?\n#+END_ASCII" "")
				("A" "#+ASCII: " "") ("i" "#+INDEX: ?" "#+INDEX: ?")
				("I" "#+INCLUDE: %file ?"
				 "<include file=%file markup=\"?\">")
				("M"
				 "** \n:PROPERTIES:\n:CLIENT:\n:END:\n:LOGBOOK:\n:END:\n" "")
				)
  org-log-done 'note
  org-refile-allow-creating-parent-nodes 'confirm
  org-clock-out-remove-zero-time-clocks t
  org-agenda-skip-timestamp-if-done t
  org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
  org-reveal-start-hook '(org-decrypt-entry)
  org-confirm-elisp-link-function t
  org-catch-invisible-edits 'show-and-error
  org-capture-templates '(("c" "calfw2org" entry (file nil)
			  "* %?\n %(cfw:org-capture-day)")
			 )
  org-log-into-drawer t
  org-default-notes-file 
"C:/ESQ/FIRM/USR/ESQ/FJM/DAT/DBF/ORG/fjm-esq-notes.org"
  org-show-siblings '((default . t))
  org-ctrl-k-protect-subtree t
  org-checklist-export-function 'org-export-as-ascii
  org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today nil
  org-expiry-inactive-timestamps t
  org-refile-use-outline-path 'file
  org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks nil
  org-global-properties '(("Effort" . "¼ ½ ¾ 1 2 3 4 ℵ ∞ 0")
			 ("DECISION" . ":ETC") ("EST_COST" . ":ETC")
			 ("MEDIA" . ":ETC") ("RATING" . ":ETC") ("REVIEW" . ":ETC")
			 ("STATUS" . ":ETC") ("CLIENT" . ":ETC")
			 ("CONFIRMATION" . ":ETC") ("KEYWORDS" . ":ETC")
			 ("OWNER" . ":ETC"))
  org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
  org-crypt-key nil
  org-link-abbrev-alist '(("Google" . "http://www.google.com/search?q=")
			 ("en.wikipedia" . "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/")
)
  org-agenda-prefix-format '((agenda . " %i %-16:c%?-12t% s%(my-cdr-olp)")
			    (timeline . "  % s")
			    (todo . " %i %-16:c%(my-cdr-olp): ")
			    (tags .
			     " %i %-16:c%(org-format-outline-path (cdr 
(org-get-outline-path))): ")
			    (search . " %i %-16:c"))
  org-replace-disputed-keys t
  org-agenda-remove-times-when-in-prefix 'beg
  org-agenda-include-diary t
  org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t
  org-enforce-todo-dependencies t
  org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
		   [org-add-hook before-save-hook org-encrypt-entries nil t] 5]
		 #[nil
		   "\305\x10\306	>\203\x14

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Re: Bug: Drawers question [8.2.10 (8.2.10-30-gca21b7-elpa @ c:/USR/FJM/APP/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150126/)]

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

"Francis J. Monari, Esquire" <monarifj.esq@juno.com> writes:

> Questions about Drawers:
> * Is it wise to have drawers with duplicate names under the same
> heading?

I don't see any problem with this.

> * I have noticed that in some respects list items identified by “- [ ] "
> are second class citizens (they have some aspects of headings, but not
> all).  Is it wise or recommended (in terms of the the development of org
> mode) to place draws under these list items?

Syntax allows drawers within lists.

> * Is it possible to specify a “canonical” order for drawers?
> e.g. PROPERTIES first, LOGBOOK second, etc.

PROPERTIES always comes first, i.e., it will be invalid for a LOGBOOK to
appear before PROPERTIES in Org 8.3.

> When org mode changes the file (I have noticed this with adding notes to
> the LOGBOOK drawer), sometimes the LOGBOOK drawer “jumps” ahead of the
> PROPERTIES drawer.

> * Sometimes, when org mode changes the file (I have not noticed a
> pattern), spaces are added after the “:END:” for the drawer.  Is this
> normal or expected?

These points are fixed in Org development branch.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou