From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Millar Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:26:22 -0400 Message-ID: <5246E70E.7000705@verizon.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=------------060803000100000002030205 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60269) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPvTw-0007TW-S1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:26:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPvTq-0003RC-P4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:26:52 -0400 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]:62331) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPvTq-0003Ph-HY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:26:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [70.192.6.123]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTU00IWBARXYQ60@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:26:22 -0500 (CDT) In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060803000100000002030205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Carsten, On 9/28/2013 2:11 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Hi everyone, > > today I looked at our tutorial page at > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/index.html > > and came away with the feeling that that this page has become > somewhat useless for people who are really new to Org. - I disagree. Your Google talk was just right - for me. It was my first exposure to Org Mode. > > Can we have a discussion here on how this path should look like? > When you came to Org-mode as a newby, what were the three resources > that really made an impression on by being accessible and > providing feel and promise for digging deeper? About three years ago I stumbled across Org Mode when I was searching Emacs in general. (I already was familiar with Emacs, but only to "fool around".) After viewing the Google talk, I specifically searched Org Mode. The three resources that made an impression: - the general tutorials, starting with David O'Toole's, - the Compact Guide with the Further Readings, (I did not look at the ones in the Org Manual) since this gave me a sense of how Org is and can be used, and - *the mailing list*, which was the one resource that has made the greatest impression on me from the beginning. It has been and is my best resource; it provides the greatest exposure to Org Mode both as to its uses and sense of the Org community. - Thank you Carsten, Bastien and all the rest if you for Org Mode. Charlie Millar --------------060803000100000002030205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Carsten,

On 9/28/2013 2:11 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
Hi everyone,

today I looked at our tutorial page at

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/index.html

and came away with the feeling that that this page has become
somewhat useless for people who are really new to Org.
- I disagree. Your Google talk was just right - for me. It was my first exposure to Org Mode. 

Can we have a discussion here on how this path should look like?
When you came to Org-mode as a newby, what were the three resources
that really made an impression on by being accessible and
providing feel and promise for digging deeper?
About three years ago I stumbled across Org Mode when I was searching Emacs in general. (I already was familiar with Emacs, but only to "fool around".)
After viewing the Google talk, I specifically searched Org Mode. The three resources that made an impression:
- the general tutorials, starting with David O'Toole's,
- the Compact Guide with the Further Readings, (I did not look at the ones in the Org Manual) since this gave me a sense of how Org is and can be used, and
- the mailing list, which was the one resource that has made the greatest impression on me from the beginning. It has been and is my best resource; it provides the greatest exposure to Org Mode both as to its uses and sense of the Org community.
- Thank you Carsten, Bastien and all the rest if you for Org Mode.

Charlie Millar

--------------060803000100000002030205--