From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rainer Stengele Subject: Re: org-speed-commands-default 1 2 3 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:55:19 +0200 Message-ID: <522587D7.9070603@online.de> References: <8D04F1BE-A07B-4571-A991-B2D24484CD50@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGkVe-00081G-DN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 02:54:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGkVY-00068y-FO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 02:54:42 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGkVY-00068o-5C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 02:54:36 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGkVV-0004n5-7e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:54:33 +0200 Received: from 212.34.176.74 ([212.34.176.74]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:54:33 +0200 Received: from rainer.stengele by 212.34.176.74 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:54:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Cc: org mode Am 03.09.2013 00:35, schrieb Tom Davey: > Olen writes: > >> Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB. > > Actually, it can. S-TAB takes a numeric prefix key. The doc string says: > > "When ARG is a numeric prefix, show contents of this level." > > So, you can directly open or close the outline to _any_ desired level "N" with C-N S-TAB. I find that feature to be incredibly handy. It encourages me to nest my outlines as deeply > as I wish. > > Here's a little navigation utility I wrote to take advantage of S-TAB's ability. Sometimes I'll want to collapse the outline to the level at point in order, say, to clean things up > by closing all lower levels. However, it's not always obvious to me what level I'm on. And without knowing what level I'm on, I can't hit the right numeric prefix for S-TAB. The > following utility does it all automagically by passing the result of org-outline-level() to S-TAB. C-S-TAB is a logical binding for this function. > > (defun open-org-outline-to-current-level () > "Opens or closes the Orgmode outline to the level at point." > (interactive) > (org-shifttab (org-outline-level)) > (message "The current outline level is %s." (org-outline-level))) > > Regards, > Tom Davey > > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Oleh > wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Carsten Dominik > > wrote: > > > > On 23.7.2013, at 15:48, Oleh > wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I've recently started using `org-use-speed-commands', and I like it a lot, > >> except I had to make one tweak: > >> > >> (setq org-use-speed-commands t) > >> (setq org-speed-commands-user > >> '(("1" . (org-shifttab 1)) > >> ("2" . (org-shifttab 2)) > >> ("3" . (org-shifttab 3)))) > >> > >> The corresponding values of `org-speed-commands-default' aren't that useful > >> for GTD: > >> > >> ("1" org-priority 65) > >> ("2" org-priority 66) > >> ("3" org-priority 67) > > > > That depends on wether you work with priorities. I find S-TAB easy enough, so I do not > > really see the need for speed commands here. > > Maybe I should elaborate my point of view on the usability. > Priorities don't normally need "buttons" to jump between states, > a "knob" is enough: only increase/decrease priority, not jump to priority 1, > jump to priority 2 etc. > > Outlines, on the other hand, can benefit from the ability to jump between > the levels of expansion. > > Level 1 is very useful - it minimizes everything, showing the > structure of the file. S-TAB is useful and simple, but you have to > repeat several times, > checking each time if it has brought you to the level that you wanted to be on. > > Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB. > For my gtd.org , it shows the tasks and appointments, without expanding > them, as well as the project names, but not what they contain. > This gives a nice overview of my projects. > > Level 3 is very useful - and cannot be reached by S-TAB. > It shows me the separate TODOs for my projects, without revealing my > notes on them, just the headings. > I even bound the rest of the digits to levels and it is useful sometimes. > > In my opinion, these shortcuts make org-mode a better outlining tool, > and should be given priority before the priority shortcuts. > > Slightly off-topic, these type of shortcuts is why I use Ubuntu Unity (I think > I managed to turn off the spying). It's got a feature that Super+1-9 > switches between applications in the sidebar slots 1-9. Sure, it's > possible to do with Alt-TAB, and that's what most other desktops do, > but Super+1-9 is superior, since you don't have to wait for feedback, > you instantly get what you want. > > regards, > Oleh > > > > > -- > -- > Tom Davey > tom@tomdavey.com > New York NY USA "collapse the outline to the level at point" seems helpful to me! Using "0" as speed key I end up with: ;; Outline level durch speedcommand setzen ;; "0": collapse the outline to the level at point (setq org-use-speed-commands t) (setq org-speed-commands-user '(("0" . (org-shifttab (org-outline-level))) ("1" . (org-shifttab 1)) ("2" . (org-shifttab 2)) ("3" . (org-shifttab 3)) ("4" . (org-shifttab 4)) ("5" . (org-shifttab 5)))) Thanks! Rainer