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From: Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de>
Cc: org mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-speed-commands-default 1 2 3
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:55:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <522587D7.9070603@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG1pqKy-xG05YW1Bk+zC7eGuGKNLsxNDFBuxsJ2a6f5F_yuftg@mail.gmail.com>

Am 03.09.2013 00:35, schrieb Tom Davey:
> Olen writes:
> 
>> Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB.
> 
> Actually, it can. S-TAB takes a numeric prefix key. The doc string says:
> 
> "When ARG is a numeric prefix, show contents of this level."
> 
> So, you can directly open or close the outline to _any_ desired level "N" with C-N S-TAB. I find that feature to be incredibly handy. It encourages me to nest my outlines as deeply
> as I wish.
> 
> Here's a little navigation utility I wrote to take advantage of S-TAB's ability. Sometimes I'll want to collapse the outline to the level at point in order, say, to clean things up
> by closing all lower levels. However, it's not always obvious to me what level I'm on. And without knowing what level I'm on, I can't hit the right numeric prefix for S-TAB. The
> following utility does it all automagically by passing the result of org-outline-level() to S-TAB. C-S-TAB is a logical binding for this function.
> 
> (defun open-org-outline-to-current-level ()
>   "Opens or closes the Orgmode outline to the level at point."
>    (interactive)
>    (org-shifttab (org-outline-level))
>    (message "The current outline level is %s." (org-outline-level)))
> 
> Regards,
> Tom Davey
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com <mailto:ohwoeowho@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Carsten Dominik
>     <carsten.dominik@gmail.com <mailto:carsten.dominik@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > On 23.7.2013, at 15:48, Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com <mailto:ohwoeowho@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Hi all,
>     >>
>     >> I've recently started using `org-use-speed-commands', and I like it a lot,
>     >> except I had to make one tweak:
>     >>
>     >>    (setq org-use-speed-commands t)
>     >>    (setq org-speed-commands-user
>     >>          '(("1" . (org-shifttab 1))
>     >>            ("2" . (org-shifttab 2))
>     >>            ("3" . (org-shifttab 3))))
>     >>
>     >> The corresponding values of `org-speed-commands-default' aren't that useful
>     >> for GTD:
>     >>
>     >>    ("1" org-priority 65)
>     >>    ("2" org-priority 66)
>     >>    ("3" org-priority 67)
>     >
>     > That depends on wether you work with priorities.  I find S-TAB easy enough, so I do not
>     > really see the need for speed commands here.
> 
>     Maybe I should elaborate my point of view on the usability.
>     Priorities don't normally need "buttons" to jump between states,
>     a "knob" is enough: only increase/decrease priority, not jump to priority 1,
>     jump to priority 2 etc.
> 
>     Outlines, on the other hand, can benefit from the ability to jump between
>     the levels of expansion.
> 
>     Level 1 is very useful - it minimizes everything, showing the
>     structure of the file. S-TAB is useful and simple, but you have to
>     repeat several times,
>     checking each time if it has brought you to the level that you wanted to be on.
> 
>     Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB.
>     For my gtd.org <http://gtd.org>, it shows the tasks and appointments, without expanding
>     them, as well as the project names, but not what they contain.
>     This gives a nice overview of my projects.
> 
>     Level 3 is very useful - and cannot be reached by S-TAB.
>     It shows me the separate TODOs for my projects, without revealing my
>     notes on them, just the headings.
>     I even bound the rest of the digits to levels and it is useful sometimes.
> 
>     In my opinion, these shortcuts make org-mode a better outlining tool,
>     and should be given priority before the priority shortcuts.
> 
>     Slightly off-topic, these type of shortcuts is why I use Ubuntu Unity (I think
>     I managed to turn off the spying). It's got a feature that Super+1-9
>     switches between applications in the sidebar slots 1-9. Sure, it's
>     possible to do with Alt-TAB, and that's what most other desktops do,
>     but Super+1-9 is superior, since you don't have to wait for feedback,
>     you instantly get what you want.
> 
>     regards,
>     Oleh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> Tom Davey
> tom@tomdavey.com <mailto:tom@tomdavey.com>
> New York NY USA

"collapse the outline to the level at point" seems helpful to me!
Using "0" as speed key I end up with:

;; Outline level durch speedcommand setzen
;; "0": collapse the outline to the level at point
(setq org-use-speed-commands t)
(setq org-speed-commands-user
      '(("0" . (org-shifttab (org-outline-level)))
	("1" . (org-shifttab 1))
	("2" . (org-shifttab 2))
	("3" . (org-shifttab 3))
	("4" . (org-shifttab 4))
	("5" . (org-shifttab 5))))

Thanks!
Rainer

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-03  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-23 13:48 org-speed-commands-default 1 2 3 Oleh
2013-08-08  7:01 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-08-08 13:02   ` Oleh
2013-09-02  5:54     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-04 11:57       ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-02 22:35     ` Tom Davey
2013-09-03  6:55       ` Rainer Stengele [this message]
2013-09-04  0:43         ` Tom Davey
2013-09-03 13:59       ` Oleh

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