From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira Subject: Re: Let's discuss citation and Org syntax Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 11:23:56 -0300 Message-ID: <51a21b2e.0f84ec0a.33b9.ffff807f@mx.google.com> References: <878v38cylw.fsf@pank.eu> <87zjvobjve.fsf@pank.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56381) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UgbsP-0003s4-2b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 May 2013 10:24:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UgbsN-0004bt-Jq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 May 2013 10:24:49 -0400 Received: from mail-ye0-f175.google.com ([209.85.213.175]:50795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UgbsN-0004bp-FN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 May 2013 10:24:47 -0400 Received: by mail-ye0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q1so632148yen.6 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 07:24:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Christian Moe Cc: Org Mode , Rasmus I prefer the [cite:citekey] syntax similar to [fn:number] for footnotes. But no matter which syntax is chosen I think we can easily make reftex work with it. All we need is to set the variable reftex-cite-format [1] to a string with the desired format. For the syntax [cite:citekey] the string would be "[cite:%l]". [1] We probably need to make that a local variable in org-mode buffers so that the global value is kept on default for latex buffers. -- Darlan At Thu, 23 May 2013 10:05:37 +0200, Christian Moe wrote: > > > Matt Price writes: > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Christian Moe wrote: > >> > >> I have a rough, working example of this enabling Zotero cites for ODT > >> export (attached). > > > Hi Christian, > > > > I'm really interested in this, as I use Zotero not only for writing > > but for group bibliographies in my courses. The broader conversation > > about the appropriate syntax is a bit beyond me, > > Hi, Matt, > > As the org-zotero-export.el shows, getting Zotero references from Org > into ODT is pretty simple. That framework could be implemented whatever > syntax we end up with to take care of the details. I'm interested in > feedback on the syntax, though -- that is, on the way I'm using the > description part of the link to convey various bits of information to > Zotero. Is it worth pursuing, or would people prefer other ways of > doing it? If worth pursuing, could it be improved? > > > (1) How do you get the Zotero cite keys right now, and what method do > > you think would ultimately be the best to try for? > > The best to try for: Something with as brilliant an interface as RefTex... > > Since this thread is on citation syntax, I think I'll gather my thoughts > about how to get there (zotero-plain? Zotero Server API? sqlite? word > processor plugin emulation?), and about your other questions, and start > another Zotero-related thread in a day or two. > > Right now: I'm still depending on Quick Copy with a custom Zotero > translator. That is, I tab from Emacs to Firefox, look up a reference in > the Zotero pane, and Quick Copy (C-S-c) to a formatted link to the > clipboard. Tab back to Emacs, yank the link, manually tweak the > description as necessary. RefTex it ain't, and it's cumbersome for > multiple citations, but it works. > > > Yours, > Christian > >