Re: Let's discuss citation and Org syntax

[Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com>]

Sorry about this late contribution to this thread.  I just stumbled on the 
RTF/ODF scan tool for Zotero at[1], which seems to do something similar to 
the ideas ventilated in this thread.  Since Zotero compatibility is high on 
the list of desirables mentioned here, I thought it might be an interisting 
point of reference.

This page also mentions that Zotero can be told to provide a "scannable 
Cite" as output format, which works with things like
|{See | Smith, (2012) |p. 45 | for an example |zu:2433:WQVBH98K}

which the format engine than turns into
|
(See Smith, 2012, p. 45 for an example)

I wonder if it would be worthwhile if the citation handling in Org would 
become compatible with this approach?

Christian W.

[1] http://zotero-odf-scan.github.io/zotero-odf-scan/


On 2013-05-26 23:23, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:
> I prefer the [cite:citekey] syntax similar to [fn:number] for footnotes.
>
> But no matter which syntax is chosen I think we can easily make reftex work
> with it. All we need is to set the variable reftex-cite-format [1] to a
> string with the desired format. For the syntax [cite:citekey] the string
> would be "[cite:%l]".
>
> [1] We probably need to make that a local variable in org-mode buffers so
>      that the global value is kept on default for latex buffers.
>
> --
> Darlan
>
>      
> At Thu, 23 May 2013 10:05:37 +0200,
> Christian Moe wrote:
>>
>> Matt Price writes:
>>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> wrote:
>>>> I have a rough, working example of this enabling Zotero cites for ODT
>>>> export (attached).
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> I'm really interested in this, as I use Zotero not only for writing
>>> but for group bibliographies in my  courses.  The broader conversation
>>> about the appropriate syntax is a bit beyond me,
>> Hi, Matt,
>>
>> As the org-zotero-export.el shows, getting Zotero references from Org
>> into ODT is pretty simple. That framework could be implemented whatever
>> syntax we end up with to take care of the details. I'm interested in
>> feedback on the syntax, though -- that is, on the way I'm using the
>> description part of the link to convey various bits of information to
>> Zotero. Is it worth pursuing, or would people prefer other ways of
>> doing it? If worth pursuing, could it be improved?
>>
>>> (1) How do you get the Zotero cite keys right now, and what method do
>>> you think would ultimately be the best to try for?
>> The best to try for: Something with as brilliant an interface as RefTex...
>>
>> Since this thread is on citation syntax, I think I'll gather my thoughts
>> about how to get there (zotero-plain? Zotero Server API? sqlite? word
>> processor plugin emulation?), and about your other questions, and start
>> another Zotero-related thread in a day or two.
>>
>> Right now: I'm still depending on Quick Copy with a custom Zotero
>> translator. That is, I tab from Emacs to Firefox, look up a reference in
>> the Zotero pane, and Quick Copy (C-S-c) to a formatted link to the
>> clipboard. Tab back to Emacs, yank the link, manually tweak the
>> description as necessary. RefTex it ain't, and it's cumbersome for
>> multiple citations, but it works.
>>
>>
>> Yours,
>> Christian
>>
>>
>


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Christian Wittern, Kyoto