From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Cc: Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@bell.net>
Subject: Re: [BUG] org-manual: Using bookmarklet for org-capture is no longer reliable
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:20:59 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51559ac9-9fce-8c0a-7800-f62ee654b752@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qnb2ked.fsf@MagnumOpus.khem>
On 31/01/2023 15:11, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
> I have been using this org-protocol addon[1] for more than a year and it has
> been rock solid for me. According to the author, bookmarklets are getting less
> and less useful because CSP (Content Security Policy) blocking them on many
> sites (for example Github)[2].
Thank you for the reminder. Using an add-on to extract metadata, I have
never tried if bookmarklets are affected by CSP.
I think, we assume different definitions of "rock solid". Does it able
to detect that desktop configuration of org-protocol is broken and to
notify the user about failure? I do not use :immediate-finish templates,
but some people do. There is a risk to quietly lost captures. I do not
see other ways to detect errors besides a native messaging helper
application.
(info "(org) Template elements")
https://orgmode.org/manual/Template-elements.html
> [2] https://github.com/vifon/org-protocol-for-firefox
This extension uses browser.tabs.update method to launch external
protocol handler. Perhaps in some cases it is better than assigning
window.location.href from a content script like in older
https://github.com/sprig/org-capture-extension/
however I have seen issues with both methods. It is a grey zone and it
is hard to predict which one will be more reliable in next versions of
browsers. Actually some people believe that even mailto: was a hack, it
is not a resource identifier as it can be expected from URI
https://github.com/w3c/web-share/blob/main/docs/explainer.md#why-not-make-a-share-uri-scheme-like-mailto-instead-of-a-javascript-api
https://github.com/chromium/ballista/issues/21
Expand on why registerProtocolHandler and registerProtocolHandler are a hack
> The question I have to ask myself, though, is if we were designing
> mailto: today, would we do it the same way? And I think the answer is
> "no, mailto: is and always was a hack, because we didn't have JavaScript".
So we should not expect that org-protocol: will work reliably in
browsers. Position of a firefox developers concerning external handlers
for custom protocols:
Bug 1744018 - External scheme handler launched by an add-on can be
blocked despite user action
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1744018#c16
> Pairing the extension with a native application and use the
> nativeMessaging API seems a better fit for the use case you are describing
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-31 12:28 UTC|newest]
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2023-01-21 21:32 ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) AW
2023-01-21 22:43 ` Gautier Ponsinet
2023-01-22 4:44 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-22 8:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-22 9:38 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-22 10:36 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-22 18:47 ` AW
2023-01-23 6:19 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-23 10:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-23 13:55 ` AW
2023-01-23 18:28 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-24 9:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 10:42 ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2023-01-24 11:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 17:08 ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2023-01-24 19:12 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-26 10:01 ` AW
2023-01-24 19:01 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-28 14:08 ` [OT] email opens (was: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)) Gregor Zattler
2023-01-28 18:26 ` tomas
2023-01-29 4:37 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-26 9:58 ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) AW
2023-01-26 10:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 11:43 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-26 12:18 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-26 18:41 ` AW
2023-01-23 11:46 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-23 13:59 ` AW
2023-01-23 14:20 ` AW
2023-01-24 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 16:11 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-24 17:32 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-01-25 12:48 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-28 2:36 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-28 8:30 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-01-28 8:30 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-31 19:56 ` PATCH for worg about cb_thunderlink (Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)) Bruno Barbier
2023-02-01 16:18 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-01 18:16 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-02 14:47 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-02 6:04 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-03 14:50 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-03 15:42 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-04 4:59 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-06 11:46 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-07 15:08 ` [PATCH] worg/org-faq.org: Recommend cb_thunderlink Thunderbird add-on Max Nikulin
2023-02-07 18:26 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-08 15:45 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-23 18:37 ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) Jean Louis
2023-01-24 17:22 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-24 17:49 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-25 15:31 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-25 16:48 ` This is out of thread subject Jean Louis
2023-01-25 18:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 6:28 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-27 11:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-27 11:51 ` Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol Max Nikulin
2023-01-29 13:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-30 5:48 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-30 14:59 ` [BUG] org-manual: Using bookmarklet for org-capture is no longer reliable (was: Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-31 8:11 ` [BUG] org-manual: Using bookmarklet for org-capture is no longer reliable Charles Philip Chan
2023-01-31 12:20 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2023-02-01 13:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-02 14:09 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-02 14:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-02 15:02 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-05 7:43 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-05 10:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-31 1:59 ` Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol Samuel Wales
2023-01-26 16:19 ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) Max Nikulin
2023-01-27 6:41 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-27 15:19 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-29 4:18 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-29 8:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 17:39 ` Bruno Barbier
2023-01-24 17:52 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-25 12:56 ` [FR] Should Org provide commonly used link types? (was: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-25 16:40 ` Should Org provide commonly used link types? Jean Louis
2023-01-25 18:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 5:09 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-26 6:11 ` Jean Louis
2023-04-26 18:18 ` jawatech
2023-01-24 9:42 ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 15:49 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-24 18:14 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-24 18:03 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-22 7:29 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-27 18:15 ` Bruno Barbier
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