Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[Martin Butz]

Hi,

does anyone have a working and fully functional orgmobile installation 
on a smartphone with Android 2.3.6 (meine: Samsung Ace)?

It seems, that mine is not complete. E.g. using the setup wizard I was 
prompted to provide a folder for the storage of the org-files. But I 
could not set this option, because I was not able to choose a folder. 
Nevertheless the synchronization with Ubuntu One basically works 
although I do not have a clue, where mobileorg stores the files.

The next problem is, I use encryption (org-mobile-use-encryption), which 
works. But how can I bring orgmobile to descrypt the files?

Thanks
Martin

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Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[J. David Boyd]

Martin Butz <mb@mkblog.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> does anyone have a working and fully functional orgmobile installation
> on a smartphone with Android 2.3.6 (meine: Samsung Ace)?
>
> It seems, that mine is not complete. E.g. using the setup wizard I was
> prompted to provide a folder for the storage of the org-files. But I
> could not set this option, because I was not able to choose a
> folder. Nevertheless the synchronization with Ubuntu One basically
> works although I do not have a clue, where mobileorg stores the files.
>
> The next problem is, I use encryption (org-mobile-use-encryption),
> which works. But how can I bring orgmobile to descrypt the files?
>
> Thanks
> Martin

I think the docs in Org describe some of the pieces you are missing....
There are variables in Org-mode that control parts of that.

Dave

Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[Martin Butz]

Am 22.12.2012 15:57, schrieb J. David Boyd:
> Martin Butz <mb@mkblog.org> writes:
[...]
>> The next problem is, I use encryption (org-mobile-use-encryption),
>> which works. But how can I bring orgmobile to descrypt the files?

[...]

>
> I think the docs in Org describe some of the pieces you are missing....
> There are variables in Org-mode that control parts of that.

I am afraid not. I browsed the available documentation [1] [2] and some 
additional postings at various pages on the web [3], but could not get 
answers to my question.

E.g. concerning the decryption with mobileorg-app [2] says,

"Next, open MobileOrg and enter your encryption password in the Settings 
tab. Perform a sync, and you are done."

I do not have this option within the mobileorg-app (version 0.7.9).

[3] says, "MobileOrg supports encryption with APG on Android.  This 
feature was added a while ago and works by encrypting the files on the 
emacs side and having the key available in APG on the Android device for 
decryption on the fly such that the files are stored encrypted on the 
server."

I did install APG on my smartphone but I do not know, if setting the option

(setq org-mobile-encryption-password "someKey") in my .emacs has 
anything to do with the options APG provides (public key, private key)? 
Or if these are totally different things.

So, if someone uses orgmobile on a smartphone running Android 2.x I'd be 
gratefull to know something about the configuration (especially on the 
smartphones side).

Thanks and merry Christmas to all
Martin


[1] https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/wiki/Documentation
[2] http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/
[3] e.g.: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobileorg-android/LqswbeNoyAQ/wIto-zZBd7oJ


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Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[J. David Boyd]

Martin Butz <mb@mkblog.org> writes:

> Am 22.12.2012 15:57, schrieb J. David Boyd:
>> Martin Butz <mb@mkblog.org> writes:
> [...]
>>> The next problem is, I use encryption (org-mobile-use-encryption),
>>> which works. But how can I bring orgmobile to descrypt the files?
>
> [...]
>
>>
>> I think the docs in Org describe some of the pieces you are missing....
>> There are variables in Org-mode that control parts of that.
>
> So, if someone uses orgmobile on a smartphone running Android 2.x I'd
> be gratefull to know something about the configuration (especially on
> the smartphones side).
>
> Thanks and merry Christmas to all
> Martin


I'm using MobileOrg and an Android 2.2, but I'm syncing through
Dropbox, which works fine.  Sorry I know nothing about the items you
mentioned.

Dave

Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[G. Martin Butz]

Hi Dave,

Am 26.12.2012 19:02, schrieb J. David Boyd:
[...]

> I'm using MobileOrg and an Android 2.2, but I'm syncing through
> Dropbox, which works fine.  Sorry I know nothing about the items you
> mentioned.

It seems, that the synchronisation does work. I will have a try without 
encryption to see whether it works.

But as my org-mode-files contain private data (as is probably the usual 
case), I do not feel like storing these on a remote server without any 
encryption.

Thanks for your answer
Martin


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Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[Martin Butz]

Hello,

in case anyone is interested, here is a short report what I found out:

+ I tested mobileorg on my Android phone without encryption and with 
synchronization via Ubuntu one. Seems to work. However: I do not want to 
store unencrypted org-files on a remote server.

+ I am able to enscrypt files through emacs but I am not able to decrypt 
these files on my smartphones.

+ I was confused reading something like "Be sure you are using MobileOrg 
1.5+ and Org-mode 7.02+" and "Next, open MobileOrg and enter your 
encryption password in the Settings tab. Perform a sync, and you are 
done." [1] It turned out, that this is only meant for the iPhone version.

+ It seems to be possible to set up decryption via APG on an Android 
phone but I have not found out how. See e.g. [2] I found other hints on 
the web, which state, that all files to be used by mobileorg and 
enscryption should have a file ending like "pgp". Some people say you 
have to decrypt files manually. I stopped experimenting though, it 
obviously seems quite complecated.

+ Nevertheless it's very tempting to have all my org-notes and schedules 
on my phone. I will wait until I can manage to make sure that encryption 
is being used.

Thanks
Martin

[1] <http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/getting-started/encryption/>
[2] 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mobileorg-android/LqswbeNoyAQ>


Am 22.12.2012 12:40, schrieb Martin Butz:
> Hi,
>
> does anyone have a working and fully functional orgmobile installation
> on a smartphone with Android 2.3.6 (meine: Samsung Ace)?
>
> It seems, that mine is not complete. E.g. using the setup wizard I was
> prompted to provide a folder for the storage of the org-files. But I
> could not set this option, because I was not able to choose a folder.
> Nevertheless the synchronization with Ubuntu One basically works
> although I do not have a clue, where mobileorg stores the files.
>
> The next problem is, I use encryption (org-mobile-use-encryption), which
> works. But how can I bring orgmobile to descrypt the files?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
>


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Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[Brian van den Broek]

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On 2 Jan 2013 07:49, "Martin Butz" <mb@mkblog.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> in case anyone is interested, here is a short report what I found out:
>
> + I tested mobileorg on my Android phone without encryption and with
synchronization via Ubuntu one. Seems to work. However: I do not want to
store unencrypted org-files on a remote server.

<snip>

> + Nevertheless it's very tempting to have all my org-notes and schedules
on my phone. I will wait until I can manage to make sure that encryption is
being used.
>
> Thanks
> Martin

<snip>

Hi Martin,

Have you considered using the SD card for syncing? It is a bit more of a
hassle than syncing with a server, but it works well enough to satisfy this
owner of a tin foil hat :-)

Best,

Brian vdB

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Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[Martin Butz]

Hi Brian,

Am 02.01.2013 16:36, schrieb Brian van den Broek:

[...]

> Have you considered using the SD card for syncing? It is a bit more of a
> hassle than syncing with a server, but it works well enough to satisfy this
> owner of a tin foil hat :-)

yes and no;) I briefly thought of it and might give it a try.

Anyway, both solutions bring up a more general issue which I haven't 
really thought of, since I owned the smartphone only recently: the 
encryption of all relevant data on the smartphone (which to me seems 
even more important, if I carry my org-mode files on a phone).

But this is beyond this list...

Nevertheless I am courious: Do you encrypt your data in case of loss of 
the phone?

Thanks for the response
Martin

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Re: Org Mobile and Adroid 2.3.6

[Brian van den Broek]

On 2 January 2013 11:29, Martin Butz <mb@mkblog.org> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Am 02.01.2013 16:36, schrieb Brian van den Broek:
>
> [...]
>
>
>> Have you considered using the SD card for syncing? It is a bit more of a
>> hassle than syncing with a server, but it works well enough to satisfy
>> this
>> owner of a tin foil hat :-)
>
>
> yes and no;) I briefly thought of it and might give it a try.
>
> Anyway, both solutions bring up a more general issue which I haven't really
> thought of, since I owned the smartphone only recently: the encryption of
> all relevant data on the smartphone (which to me seems even more important,
> if I carry my org-mode files on a phone).
>
> But this is beyond this list...
>
> Nevertheless I am courious: Do you encrypt your data in case of loss of the
> phone?


Hi Martin and all,

[This may be veering off topic; if anyone minds, please feel free to
let me know.]

Any data that is truly private is encrypted within org using
org-crypt. None of that is in my agenda files, so those files never
make their way to the phone. A purely phone encyption solution would
not work for me as I almost always take my netbook with my full suite
or org files in to work. My office is secure enough that I will leave
the netbook there from time to time, but not so secure that I am
willing to have the truly private data live on in unencrypted. (It
does have full disk encryption, but in a triumph of ease over
security, I often leave the netbook suspended, thus leaving the disk
unlocked.)

I use mobile-org primary to sync with the phone's own calendar (and
thus to get notifications for tasks and appointments ithout obviously
sharing my details with google) and, since recent versions of mobile
org for Android enabled this to work for me, quick capture on the
phone. With the small screen and my usually having a proper computer
at hand, I don't consult my org files on the phone very often. At
least on my form-factor of phone, the mobile org for Android UI makes
reading org files there a bit awkward.

If I know that I have data stored in org that I will need to consult
on the phone, I usually copy paste into some another app that makes it
easier to read on the go. I have had success with both Wikilin
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mosharu.wikilin&hl=en>
and Simple Notepad
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mightyfrog.android.simplenotepad&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5taWdodHlmcm9nLmFuZHJvaWQuc2ltcGxlbm90ZXBhZCJd>.
Sadly, neither is FLOSS.

The UI of Wikilin isn't as good for reading on the phone as is Simple
Notepad, but its data files are stored as plain text on the SD card
making editing them from a real computer much easier.

HTH,

Brian vdB