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[24.197.47.106]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q24sm5802675qkj.103.2020.06.12.17.22.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:22:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Devin Prater Message-Id: <50B6904D-1D1E-43E2-AF09-F1BD49010469@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1393A923-D077-4292-AA6A-9F96342E6DC2" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: Get Grades Done: the joys of Org's simple power Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 19:22:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Phil Regier References: <7F2E7FFF-5676-4A11-8E8E-021FC59C01CB@gmail.com> <20200611032239.GN23478@volibear> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f31; envelope-from=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf31.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: gmauer@gmail.com, emacs-orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=GEbecS0/; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.21 X-TUID: lGnYNunwm+yk --Apple-Mail=_1393A923-D077-4292-AA6A-9F96342E6DC2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Well, some teachers are blind, which means Emacspeak, and Spacemax does = have visual stuff, so Emacspeak may not work well with that. I=E2=80=99ll = have to try Doom Emacs though, maybe that=E2=80=99ll work better. The = bigger problem though, is that Emacspeak relies on speech servers, and = the one for Windows hasn=E2=80=99t been updated in=E2=80=A6 quite a = while. I just want not only myself and technically inclined sighted = teachers to be able to access this, plus its good to have accessible = teaching tools no matter what, because you never know when another blind = person may want to use it later on. > On Jun 12, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Phil Regier = wrote: >=20 > A friend showed me Org-mode running in spacemacs a few years back, and = I was pretty impressed with how well it seemed to be working, though I = haven't messed with it much myself. Especially not sure how much sugar = it offers as far as sharing a particular experience with new users, but = at the very least you should be able to include basic usage instructions = within the Org file? >=20 > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:56 PM George Mauer > wrote: > You know...I believe some people have gotten emacs running in = browser... You could do it by compiling it to wasm. So in theory you = could create a completely in-browser emacs which is optimized primarily = for org mode usage. >=20 > Would be kind of an awesome thing for someone to tackle as it would = greatly increase the reach of org. Not easy though. Could probably be a = whole thesis project. >=20 > Not sure how well it would work with screen readers and other = accessibility tech though. That would be even more work >=20 > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 10:24 PM Russell Adams = > wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 03:38:43PM -0500, Devin Prater wrote: > > Now, I do wish I could share these =E2=80=9Cself-grading=E2=80=9D = performance tests with > > others. I=E2=80=99ve tried exporting one to HTML, but the grade = doesn=E2=80=99t seem to update > > automatically like it does in Org-mode. >=20 > Unfortunately updating the count is performed by a hook in Org when = you use C-c > C-c to check/uncheck a box. That information is static in the text, = and static > in html. >=20 > I'm not aware of a built-in way to handle that case. Sorry. >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com >=20 > PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ = >=20 > Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_1393A923-D077-4292-AA6A-9F96342E6DC2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Well,= some teachers are blind, which means Emacspeak, and Spacemax does have = visual stuff, so Emacspeak may not work well with that. I=E2=80=99ll = have to try Doom Emacs though, maybe that=E2=80=99ll work better. The = bigger problem though, is that Emacspeak relies on speech servers, and = the one for Windows hasn=E2=80=99t been updated in=E2=80=A6 quite a = while. I just want not only myself and technically inclined sighted = teachers to be able to access this, plus its good to have accessible = teaching tools no matter what, because you never know when another blind = person may want to use it later on.

On Jun = 12, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Phil Regier <phil.regier@gmail.com> wrote:

A friend showed me Org-mode running in spacemacs a few years = back, and I was pretty impressed with how well it seemed to be working, = though I haven't messed with it much myself.  Especially not sure = how much sugar it offers as far as sharing a particular experience with = new users, but at the very least you should be able to include basic = usage instructions within the Org file?

On Wed, Jun = 10, 2020 at 9:56 PM George Mauer <gmauer@gmail.com> wrote:
You = know...I believe some people have gotten emacs running in browser... You = could do it by compiling it to wasm. So in theory you could create a = completely in-browser emacs which is optimized primarily for org mode = usage.

Would be kind of an awesome thing for someone to tackle as it = would greatly increase the reach of org. Not easy though. Could probably = be a whole thesis project.

Not sure how well it would = work with screen readers and other accessibility tech though. That would = be even more work

On Wed, Jun = 10, 2020, 10:24 PM Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 03:38:43PM = -0500, Devin Prater wrote:
> Now, I do wish I could share these =E2=80=9Cself-grading=E2=80=9D = performance tests with
> others. I=E2=80=99ve tried exporting one to HTML, but the grade = doesn=E2=80=99t seem to update
> automatically like it does in Org-mode.

Unfortunately updating the count is performed by a hook in Org when you = use C-c
C-c to check/uncheck a box. That information is static in the text, and = static
in html.

I'm not aware of a built-in way to handle that case. Sorry.
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