Re: mail integration, advice?

[Neil Smithline <emacs-orgmode@neilsmithline.com>]

On 4/26 12:28, Rasmus wrote:
 > Arch updates wl often.  Latest package is three months old.
 >
 > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/wanderlust/

Rasmus,

I don't think that Arch is really updating WL. I took a look at most of 
the commits at http://bit.ly/JQkshB and think they are only bumping the 
Arch version number and packaging. I didn't see any changes to the elisp.

To the best of my knowledge, most if not all maintenance on WL ended 
several years ago. I decided to avoid WL because of this and the similar 
lack of maintenance on FLIM and APEL.

Neil Smithline
http://www.neilsmithline.com
Proud GNU Emacs user since 1986, v. 18.24.


On 4/26 12:28 , Rasmus wrote:
> Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I'd like to take one more shot at returning to text-based email within
>> emacs, mostly because I want to be able to integrate mail easily into
>> my org-mode workflow.
>
> It's worth it.
>
>> The last time I tried this I used wanderlust,
>> and I'd be willing to give it a try again but a couple of things have
>> discouraged me in the past:
>
> I used wl but switched to Gnus.
>
>> - wl causes emacs to freeze up when it checks or sends mail, and can
>> take quite a long while to complete these operations
>
> I know of no solution to this.  You could run a dedicated Gnus process
> if it bothers you.
>
>> - wl seems to have gone quasi-dormant, with very little activity on
>> the mailing list and no recent releases; it also relies on two other
>> packages, FLIM and APEL, with similarly dormant mailing lists
>
> Arch updates wl often.  Latest package is three months old.
>
> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/wanderlust/
>
>> - allow me to continue using Thunderbird as a backup for e.g. images
>> and highly formatted mails -- thunderbird is currently set up w/ local
>> copies of IMAP folders for my current mail, plus local archives served
>> on by dovecot that can be accessed both by thunderbird and by e.g.
>> wanderlust.
>
> Message-mode handles txt mails well.  There is some org extension for
> html mails (although I don't like html mails).
>
> IMAP should be fine.  You can run it local if you want.  I do
> offlineimap + dovecot.
>
>> - fast search and easy-to-manage virtual folders of some kind -- I see
>> mu and notmuch are very strong on both these fronts
>
> notmuch and mu4emacs are probably also easier to set up.
>
>> - easy, stable harvesting of email-based data through org-capture
>
> Use bbdb3.
>
>>   (if possible, this should allow me to archive a message and still be
>> able to find it when I follow an org message link)
>
> You can capture gnus mails through org-capture.  I don't know how robust
> the links are.
>
>> - would be nice if configuration didn't require TONS of lisp code, a I
>> am a very slow coder and these kinds of configuration tasks can be
>> very daunting for me.
>
> I have tons of list configuration for Gnus. . .  But half of it is for
> weird stuff such as random signature, random `avatar', several SMTP etc.
>
>> - shouldn't slow down my workflow too much -- I should be able to very
>> quickly check my email then return to an org buffer to continue
>> writing.
>
> I have F9 bring up the Gnus Group buffer.  G for update.  Elegant
> auto-fetching of new mails from foreign imap is something I have not
> solved yet.
>