Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)

[Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>]

On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

> [ ... ]
>>>> C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on  
>>>> that
>>>> key.
>>>> Many do.
>>>
>>> Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style  
>>> category.
>>> Is it wise to do it that way?
>>> For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys.
>>> Are reasons for this?
>>
>> Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number
>> of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just  
>> `C-c
>> /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For
>> interactive use, I think this is just perfect.
>>
>> Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you
>> want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I
>> like to have them in the manual, for look up.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm following, thanks for the explanation.
> Remains a describe-mode bug than (?)
>
>
>>>
>>> Sincerely undecided here, just a question.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To simplify you work, you can just leave these keys unchanged in  
>>>> the
>>>> manual,and I will take a look at those later.
>>>
>>> Remains something to do anyway IMHO.
>>>
>>> First a creating command is mentioned, after it says "showing".
>>>
>>> @orgcmd{C-c /,org-sparse-tree}
>>> This prompts for an extra key to select a sparse-tree creating  
>>> command.
>>>
>>> ;;;;;;;
>>>
>>> @kindex C-c / r
>>> @item C-c / r
>>> @vindex org-remove-highlights-with-change
>>> Occur. Prompts for a regexp and shows a sparse tree with all  
>>> matches. If
>>
>> In this end, this should simply be
>>
>> @orgcmd{C-c / r, org-occur}
>
> May you update the doku?
> BTW if the first key branches to other key, would help folks like me  
> to know... Maybe saying: Is a generic key invoking...
>
>>
>> Because the dispatcher command will call this command after "r" has  
>> been
>> pressed.
>>
>> But as I said, I can do these indirect calls pretty easily, I know  
>> most
>> of them by heart.
>>
>
> Thanks. Should get it from var last-command already.
>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>
> Still an issue:
>
> No brand of Emacs org-mode knows org-occur here
>
> M-x where-is org-occur
>
> ==>
>
> org-occur is not on any key
>
> Also when C-c / is pressed, there is no `r'-key displayed,
> see screenshot.

As I have been trying to explain during this thread, Emacs does
not know that org-occur is can be reached through `C-c / r'.
So where-is cannot give you a reply.

This is not a bug, it is in the nature of the dispatcher
commands Org-mode uses.

- Carsten

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> Andreas
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