From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Outline cycling does not preserve point's position Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:02:35 +0200 Message-ID: <4ED2509E-8A2E-4ED2-BFCF-CB7B27F1D2B4@gmail.com> References: <87li365ixg.fsf@gmail.com> <87d2oi57fg.fsf@gmail.com> <7CB7B681-DD2E-446C-AE45-DDCA204EE95C@gmail.com> <5855E8E1-9730-4A29-89FF-E35C64E54EDD@gmail.com> <20130910073257.GO20690@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <20130910075345.GP20690@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <25A21DB7-B2E5-47BB-8A64-594A15CB24B8@gmail.com> <20130910085057.GQ20690@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C497BB1B-3591-4E5F-A01D-F6B0FFDFED15"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32916) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJJqd-0007uK-HM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:03:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJJqV-0002YB-49 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:02:59 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::230]:45167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJJqU-0002Xm-Uk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:02:51 -0400 Received: by mail-ea0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q16so3709501ead.35 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 02:02:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130910085057.GQ20690@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Suvayu Ali Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --Apple-Mail=_C497BB1B-3591-4E5F-A01D-F6B0FFDFED15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10.9.2013, at 10:50, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:16:06AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: >>=20 >> The question is: What are people using C-arrow for? >>=20 >> I think the main application is reasonably fast motion >> and selection in a *linear* way. Is this correct, or do people >> disagree here with me? >=20 > I use it for navigating a buffer (not necessarily Org) linearly; i.e. = go > back and forth between parts I'm working on or to peruse the contents = of > a file. That said, often I feel the need for a navigation command = which > allows me to navigate the semantics of the buffer (which exactly what > Nicolas's elements based navigation does). >=20 >> The amazing element motion commands Nicolas has implement >> correspond to sexp motion, as he has said himself. >> Maybe C-M-f and C-M-b are the better binding match for these? >=20 > I think you are right here. There is a need for both. For me, I use > linear navigation more commonly; so I would prefer C- for > linear navigation and some other bindings (like C-M-f/b, as you = suggest) > for the elements based motion. And by linear, I think we don't mean strictly linear, but on a = paragraph/table/item scale, ignoring hierarchy. Cheers - Carsten >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > --=20 > Suvayu >=20 > Open source is the future. It sets us free. --Apple-Mail=_C497BB1B-3591-4E5F-A01D-F6B0FFDFED15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAlIu4CsACgkQ9hweYzZiJkzYcgCfSOId9MQKtSRyZ9Zi2R9NOL+O 47AAn02MBXzSsUb19W2yqcy5i242aNfo =I+zl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C497BB1B-3591-4E5F-A01D-F6B0FFDFED15--