From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Moe Subject: Re: how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org? Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:30:06 +0200 Message-ID: <4C8168DE.9060608@christianmoe.com> References: <87lj7kapzq.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de> <4C801DFC.8030700@christianmoe.com> Reply-To: mail@christianmoe.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60724 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OrdoY-0005k5-BF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:28:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OrdoX-0003FJ-10 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:28:50 -0400 Received: from mars.hitrost.net ([91.185.193.39]:48977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OrdoW-0003F5-LY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:28:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matt Price Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi, I'm in the same situation, eager to do humanities in plain text. (One possibility is reStructuredText, with an elegant syntax and an excellent ODF exporter. But I love the Swiss-army-knife-ness of Org.) Just wondering two things: 1. Have you tried out Org > HTML > MS Word or OpenOffice, and how is it worse than mk4ht for someone who'd prefer not to learn latex? I find that this works amazingly well: - export HTML, delete the XML declaration - open HTML in OpenOffice and remove sections - select all, copy, paste into a new document, and save that document as .doc/.odt/.rtf (a bit cumbersome -- there ought to be an option to open HTML and Save As an office format, but I can't find it) This gives footnotes, tables, even bookmarks, with internal links to targets or custom IDs preserved. 2. Given that the above is a viable path to get Rich Text Format documents, have you tried {Smith, 1995, 6-7} citations and formatting with Zotero's RTF scan (http://www.zotero.org/support/rtf_scan)? It's another manual step, of course, so the whole process gets pretty lengthy, but it does let you format bibliographies for Word with Zotero from Org... Yours, Christian > this is certainly something I'd like to do. But i have the problem > that (1) I don't really know how to use latex, and was trying to avoid > what now seems like the necessary task of learning how to use it; and > (2) in my field (history) latex and bibtex are both pretty problematic > as export formats. Bibtex doesn't support most humanistic citation > styles (and has a rigid type strcture which doesn't accommodate things > like archival materials very well; while latex is neither an > acceptable submission format for most journals, nor a good formation > for collaboration with other scholars (since everyone else writes in > MS Word). This means that what I really need is a more robust > open-document exporter; but that's been giving me problem after > problem lately (for instance, mk4ht has stopped exporting some of my > most important documents, for reasons I don't understand but might be > related to org-mode's latex exporter. I have this notion I saw a > generic exporter that someone wrote for odt, in which you feed the > exporter a template document which ocntains all the relevant style > definitions. but I can't find it anymore, and as I recall it didn't > really seem to work very well anyway. >