From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Erik Iverson Subject: Re: Re: a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:07:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4C76E58C.4050904@ccbr.umn.edu> References: <4C76A590.9050800@ccbr.umn.edu> <4C76D92E.1060308@ccbr.umn.edu> <0v8w3trqn4.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47456 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OokbU-0001xe-Rz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:07:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OokbJ-0003Zc-1B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:07:14 -0400 Received: from walleye.ccbr.umn.edu ([128.101.116.11]:1569) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OokbI-0003ZO-Py for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:07:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0v8w3trqn4.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Markus Heller Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Markus Heller wrote: > Erik Iverson writes: > >> John, >> >> Thank you for your reply. >> >> For those that don't want to read all that follows, please note my >> conclusion, given here: >> >> Since orgmode is automatically telling latex to use T1 encoding, >> perhaps we should somewhere document to the user that Type 1 >> fonts should be available to get the best looking PDF possible. >> Otherwise, type 3 fonts will be substituted. I got suitable >> Type-1 fonts by installing the texlive-fonts-extra package >> under Ubuntu. > > Note that T1 *font encoding* has nothing to do with Type 1 fonts! Yes, thank you. I gathered that eventually, but it did take some time to appreciate they are completely different concepts. Is the following correct? Some Type 1 fonts *support* the T1 encoding. Computer Modern is not one of those, so you need some that do. CM-super or Latin Modern are two Type 1 font packages that do support the T1 encoding. > > As far as I understand, you need Type 1 fonts for good looking pdfs > (Type 3 are bitmap fonts and thus not scalable), but the actual font > encoding shouldn't matter. Yes! But as I think(?) I discovered, when T1 encoding is specified, the Type 1 Computer Modern fonts don't support it, and therefore are not included in the PDF. In my case, a Type 3 font was substituted that looked nasty. I needed to install proper Type 1 fonts that support the T1 encoding, like Cm-super or Latin Modern. Since orgmode is telling latex to use T1 encoding by default, I was bitten by the fact that I had no Type 1 fonts that supported this encoding, with my bare-bones latex install from a relatively common Linux distro. My message is just serving as information about how to get those fonts. Thanks!