From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Subject: Re: Re: What license for Worg? Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:25:07 +0200 Message-ID: <4C5BD4F3.7000703@easy-emacs.de> References: <874ofd19fd.fsf@altern.org> <87hbjbq6qh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36251 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhJC9-0000Tn-5T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:26:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhJC7-0002vq-PD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:26:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87hbjbq6qh.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Cc: Richard Stallman , Bastien Am 04.08.2010 07:36, schrieb Bastien: > Or we might also consider CC0: > > http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ > > It looks way more simple to me. > > It also circumvents the problem of people having to sign the FSF papers > if the Org/Emacs manuals include part of the code they contributed to > Worg as examples. > > What people think? > Hi Bastien, that's an interesting proposal, I'm glad seeing you reflecting the matter. Please permet first clarifying a little bit: we can't speek of FSF papers as such, it's very different one. The FSF disclaimer is perfectly ok IMO and should be sufficient for any distributor. The other paper, obliging the author to indemnities towards the FSF even in cases of false accusations, stipulating US-courts and US-law as the only relevant, is a human rights violation. Bien sure, that hat not been the intention of RMS and the other developers. Nonetheless, in fact it's not different from the famous Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which first time in newer history stipulated US-law for all the others too. Copyright assignment is an essay not to defend, but to attack. It trys software as a weapon. This deplorable idea we see inside the GPL too BTW, marking a cultural gab between post-communist Europe and US. In consideration which was said above, your proposal probably will not be accepted by FSF, as a non-existing copyright can't be assigned any more. :-) CC to RMS. Andreas -- https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/