From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Torsten Wagner Subject: [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification? Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:51:54 +0900 Message-ID: <4C296DDA.1080109@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50668 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OTRrV-0002Kr-C6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:51:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTRrU-0006Vf-7j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:51:53 -0400 Received: from mail-pv0-f169.google.com ([74.125.83.169]:53203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTRrU-0006VY-27 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:51:52 -0400 Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so4257636pvg.0 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:51:50 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org Mode List Dear All, as a (quite, but happy) org-bable user of the first hour I followed up the development process actively. Nevertheless, some weeks or months pass where I had no need for org-babel (yes, really strange I know). Whenever I come back to org-babel, it takes me a huge amount of time to find myself back again in the syntax. Often I spend a day or two heavily reading the website and manual again to figure out how to make it working. There are so many options. tangle files, results, scripting mode, sessions, noweb, lot, etc. Just yesterday, I fighted again to make a simple python script running as desired to generate an automatic report. I did this dozen of times and even by using some old report as template I still struggle with it. Comparing old reports I noticed that I did it in many different ways. Tangeling all snipplets, using noweb syntax, with and without session support, etc. Don't get me wrong, I really love org-babel and I think it is really great. I just wonder wether it has become too complex and too difficult to use to attract most of the org-mode people. Esp. considering people who use it not on a regular basis. Best regards Torsten