From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Keith Swartz Subject: Re: Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:10:31 -0700 Message-ID: <4A1D9E37.9070300@oneroad.com> References: <4A17321F.7040806@oneroad.com> <3EBA2E79-B1BD-482D-A925-89DAB32A572F@gmail.com> <4A1CFD4A.2010202@oneroad.com> <5CAFD0E0-AEA6-4EBD-B9E9-BEDDE8C78351@gmail.com> Reply-To: Keith Swartz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M9PSm-0000db-CO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:11:00 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M9PSh-0000Uj-PJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:11:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33379 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M9PSh-0000Uf-NO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:10:55 -0400 Received: from smtpauth01.csee.onr.siteprotect.com ([64.26.60.145]:41934) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M9PSg-000578-Vo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:10:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5CAFD0E0-AEA6-4EBD-B9E9-BEDDE8C78351@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On May 27, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: > >> I can see where M-S-ENTER prompting for a status note change would be >> annoying. Personally, I don't use that feature, so I didn't think of >> that -- I'm more interested in the timestamps. Basically, I like >> being able to record /when/ something was first entered as a todo >> item -- gives me a good way to see which items are the oldest. >> >> One thought is to record the state change, but default the status >> note to "TODO created", rather than prompting for it. >> >> Then again, maybe a variable is the best answer here, because sooner >> or later, somebody is going to want to change that. Normally, I'd >> hate to add more and more variables just to complicate things, but >> org-mode seems to have no shortage of them. (That's a good thing!) :) > > > Do you now hate or like it??? :-) > > There is now a new variable > `org-treat-insert-todo-heading-as-state-change', default nil. Ugh! That's it, now I hate it. :-) Just kidding; our emails crossed paths, but this is exactly what I proposed. Thanks Carsten! Keith --- >> Carsten Dominik wrote: >>> >>> On May 26, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Manish wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm using org-mode 6.25e right now, and I've turned on the >>>>> functionality to >>>>> track todo state changes. If I create a list item (M-ENTER) and >>>>> then change >>>>> it to a TODO (C-c C-t), it correctly puts the state change in the >>>>> :LOGBOOK: drawer as I've configured it. >>>>> >>>>> However, if I use M-S-ENTER to combine the above two steps into >>>>> one (create >>>>> a "TODO" item), it does NOT create an entry in the LOGBOOK for State >>>>> "TODO" from "" at all. Is that a bug? >>>> >>>> IMO, this is not really a state change. >>> >>> In interesting point, and something up for discussion. >>> >>> I personally am neter interesting in recording a time stamp when >>> first switching an item to TODO. Furthermore, for other state >>> changes I prefer to record a note. >>> However, M-S-RET is really meant for fast adding of one or more TODO >>> entries, and being prompted for a state change note would be really >>> annoying here. >>> >>> Up for discussion, I am willing to install a variable here.... >>> >>> - Carsten >>>