* protecting ascii art
@ 2008-08-15 21:54 Scott Otterson
2008-08-16 1:34 ` Eddward DeVilla
2008-09-05 7:05 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Scott Otterson @ 2008-08-15 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing? When I
paste the following under an org mode headline:
+-------+ +--------------> future x
+----+ |predict| | +-------+
x -->|TDL +--| x |--+-->| |
+----+ +-------+ |predict|--> future y
| |
+----+ | y |
y -->|TDL +---------------->| |
+----+ +-------+
org mode scrambles it. If I precede each line with a ':', org mode
still scrambles it, but less so.
Thanks,
Scott
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-08-15 21:54 protecting ascii art Scott Otterson @ 2008-08-16 1:34 ` Eddward DeVilla 2008-08-16 16:38 ` Scott Otterson 2008-09-05 7:05 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Eddward DeVilla @ 2008-08-16 1:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Scott Otterson; +Cc: emacs-orgmode I think that's a bug. prefixing the lines with : ought to do it. It prevents the | character from becoming tables, but it's not preventing the + from creating strike throughs. I would think that #+BEGIN_QUOTE ought to work too, but it doesn't. That maybe for export only. Edd On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Scott Otterson <scotto@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing? When I paste > the following under an org mode headline: > > +-------+ +--------------> future x > +----+ |predict| | +-------+ > x -->|TDL +--| x |--+-->| | > +----+ +-------+ |predict|--> future y > | | > +----+ | y | > y -->|TDL +---------------->| | > +----+ +-------+ > > org mode scrambles it. If I precede each line with a ':', org mode still > scrambles it, but less so. > > Thanks, > > Scott > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-08-16 1:34 ` Eddward DeVilla @ 2008-08-16 16:38 ` Scott Otterson 2008-08-17 21:07 ` artist/mouse - was: " Sebastian Rose 2008-08-26 0:26 ` William Henney 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Scott Otterson @ 2008-08-16 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eddward DeVilla; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Yeah, that's what I thought about #+BEGIN_QUOTE too. By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's built-in artist-mode: http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer. Right now, hitting M-x artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file. But with some code twizzling, maybe it would be possible to use artist-mode to interactively draw ascii graphics, just like we can now create ascii tables. That would make org-mode a complete text-based system -- a plain text paradise. Scott On 8/15/2008 6:34 PM, Eddward DeVilla wrote: > I think that's a bug. prefixing the lines with : ought to do it. It > prevents the | character from becoming tables, but it's not preventing > the + from creating strike throughs. I would think that #+BEGIN_QUOTE > ought to work too, but it doesn't. That maybe for export only. > > Edd > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* artist/mouse - was: protecting ascii art 2008-08-16 16:38 ` Scott Otterson @ 2008-08-17 21:07 ` Sebastian Rose 2008-08-26 0:26 ` William Henney 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2008-08-17 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: [emacs-orgmode] Hi, I think what we need for this a possibility to turn of org-mouse module. Which I would like anyway, since it often get's in my way. Maybe the mouse sensitivity could be on leading stars and links only? E.g. cut text with right mouse button... In org, I now use 'M-x edit-picture' instead, which is great too. Scott Otterson wrote: > By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's > built-in artist-mode: > > http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html > > to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer. Right now, hitting M-x > artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file. > But with some code twizzling, maybe it would be possible to use > artist-mode to interactively draw ascii graphics, just like we can now > create ascii tables. That would make org-mode a complete text-based > system -- a plain text paradise. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-08-16 16:38 ` Scott Otterson 2008-08-17 21:07 ` artist/mouse - was: " Sebastian Rose @ 2008-08-26 0:26 ` William Henney 2008-08-26 2:44 ` Scott Otterson 2008-09-05 21:58 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: William Henney @ 2008-08-26 0:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Scott Otterson; +Cc: Eddward DeVilla, emacs-orgmode Hi Scott On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Scott Otterson <scotto@u.washington.edu> wrote: > By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's built-in > artist-mode: > > http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html > > to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer. Right now, hitting M-x > artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file. What seems to work is to first set aside some lines for your artistic creation, select them, and do "C-x n n" (narrow-to-region) before turning on artist-mode. Then, when you have finished, turn off artist-mode and do "C-x n w" (widen). This is a bit of a pain to remember the steps, but it does protect the org file from getting clobbered. Cheers Will -- Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-08-26 0:26 ` William Henney @ 2008-08-26 2:44 ` Scott Otterson 2008-09-05 21:58 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Scott Otterson @ 2008-08-26 2:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Henney; +Cc: Eddward DeVilla, emacs-orgmode Thanks! Yes, this does work, and I'll definitely use it. I wonder how hard it would be to automate those steps. Scott On 8/25/2008 5:26 PM, William Henney wrote: > Hi Scott > <...> > What seems to work is to first set aside some lines for your artistic > creation, select them, and do "C-x n n" (narrow-to-region) before > turning on artist-mode. Then, when you have finished, turn off > artist-mode and do "C-x n w" (widen). > > This is a bit of a pain to remember the steps, but it does protect the > org file from getting clobbered. > > Cheers > > Will > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-08-26 0:26 ` William Henney 2008-08-26 2:44 ` Scott Otterson @ 2008-09-05 21:58 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-09-07 2:40 ` Scott Otterson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-05 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Henney; +Cc: Eddward DeVilla, Scott Otterson, emacs-orgmode On Aug 26, 2008, at 2:26 AM, William Henney wrote: > Hi Scott > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Scott Otterson > <scotto@u.washington.edu> wrote: >> By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's >> built-in >> artist-mode: >> >> http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html >> >> to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer. Right now, hitting >> M-x >> artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file. > > What seems to work is to first set aside some lines for your artistic > creation, select them, and do "C-x n n" (narrow-to-region) before > turning on artist-mode. Then, when you have finished, turn off > artist-mode and do "C-x n w" (widen). > > This is a bit of a pain to remember the steps, but it does protect the > org file from getting clobbered. This is a very good idea that fits right into the functionality of the "C-c '" command, so I have added it there. If you now press "C-c '" in a region of lines starting with a colon, you get to edit this region in artist-mode. Also, if you press these keys in an empty line, a new drawing is created. I always wanted to have drawing in some way and even did some experiments years ago - but I did not know of artist-mode. Thanks for the ideas! - Carsten P.S. I believe that also the strikethrough problem is fixed by now. > > > Cheers > > Will > > -- > > Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, > Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-09-05 21:58 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-07 2:40 ` Scott Otterson 2008-09-07 4:51 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Scott Otterson @ 2008-09-07 2:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Eddward DeVilla, emacs-orgmode This great, but maybe it's not in the latest org version? In 6.06b, when I type C-c ', I get sent to ffap. This matches the comments in org-edit-special, which indicate that this is what will happen. Anyway, thanks for implementing this. Scott On 9/5/2008 2:58 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > ... > This is a very good idea that fits right into the functionality of the > "C-c '" command, so I have added it there. If you now press "C-c '" in > a region of lines starting with a colon, you get to edit this region in > artist-mode. Also, if you press these keys in an empty line, a new > drawing is created. > > I always wanted to have drawing in some way and even did some experiments > years ago - but I did not know of artist-mode. > > Thanks for the ideas! > > - Carsten > > P.S. I believe that also the strikethrough problem is fixed by now. > >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Will >> >> -- >> >> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, >> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-09-07 2:40 ` Scott Otterson @ 2008-09-07 4:51 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-07 4:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Scott Otterson; +Cc: Eddward DeVilla, emacs-orgmode On Sep 7, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Scott Otterson wrote: > This great, but maybe it's not in the latest org version? In 6.06b, > when I type C-c ', I get sent to ffap. This matches the comments in > org-edit-special, which indicate that this is what will happen. This feature will be in 6.07, but it is now available in the git repository. - Carsten > > Anyway, thanks for implementing this. > > Scott > > On 9/5/2008 2:58 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: >> ... >> This is a very good idea that fits right into the functionality of >> the >> "C-c '" command, so I have added it there. If you now press "C-c >> '" in >> a region of lines starting with a colon, you get to edit this >> region in >> artist-mode. Also, if you press these keys in an empty line, a new >> drawing is created. >> >> I always wanted to have drawing in some way and even did some >> experiments >> years ago - but I did not know of artist-mode. >> >> Thanks for the ideas! >> >> - Carsten >> >> P.S. I believe that also the strikethrough problem is fixed by now. >> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Will >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, >>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-08-15 21:54 protecting ascii art Scott Otterson 2008-08-16 1:34 ` Eddward DeVilla @ 2008-09-05 7:05 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-09-05 11:24 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-05 7:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Scott Otterson; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Actually, in my GNU Emacs, prefixing these lines with ":" makes them look fine. You are using XEmacs, right? - Carsten On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Scott Otterson wrote: > Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing? When > I paste the following under an org mode headline: > > +-------+ +--------------> future x > +----+ |predict| | +-------+ > x -->|TDL +--| x |--+-->| | > +----+ +-------+ |predict|--> future y > | | > +----+ | y | > y -->|TDL +---------------->| | > +----+ +-------+ > > org mode scrambles it. If I precede each line with a ':', org mode > still scrambles it, but less so. > > Thanks, > > Scott > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: protecting ascii art 2008-09-05 7:05 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-05 11:24 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-05 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Scott Otterson, emacs-orgmode My mistake, this is indeed also broken under GNU Emacs. I had turned off strikethrough emphasis, that is why it looked OK for me. - Carsten On Sep 5, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Actually, in my GNU Emacs, prefixing these lines with ":" makes them > look fine. You are using XEmacs, right? > > - Carsten > > On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Scott Otterson wrote: > >> Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing? When >> I paste the following under an org mode headline: >> >> +-------+ +--------------> future x >> +----+ |predict| | +-------+ >> x -->|TDL +--| x |--+-->| | >> +----+ +-------+ |predict|--> future y >> | | >> +----+ | y | >> y -->|TDL +---------------->| | >> +----+ +-------+ >> >> org mode scrambles it. If I precede each line with a ':', org mode >> still scrambles it, but less so. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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