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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619000852; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=5YB9kytpzZtMfMUVniFH3CP8NIQ5rCLYN/1WychQdkI=; b=CDhw9TYRwRBJpUR4pezO5zRLXH183W9zadqq2DJlTfESd6Wj1Emmaqkyon55uNVoM4UWsf sVr/fol9Z7eBdyheC5FdDrBn2HsD+3ny1bEQLaN/mxhLTbrV91BOfPpzjyfHaUBIKTtG13 2Er7EFVqo4G1jmCHGC9N9WGUDSeZhQ+jRlr4a5mJTLl3uxVujdZpaNvJsTZhW85XfsgTFh DqdX20FQRur1hgHI2vztqDXSiHdF7CbvH5DA2nUFYpp1/wo+IZX7qHmBw1pe76rDu9cozf pkiraSqjW61bck6mBHWwK1t8b3rHVolm+94ukqu5yNXV4wCCld5IxRTBlGFlAQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619000852; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=KM6S2gq/gWKK6h2KN+g1xqNcVeBt+RXUeLxKfaHoVHhIIu2UhJJOaw+BlzyKNchObxnw5/ btRsKTJ/ouvpxlGLxSB9LQcOR1Z8LgAveKK90etpLFmvXCSkFv9dCInPUmPkYstDPPUT2D hAoQQkpbgF/uY7LzDQuqJD4GsSLrK2VxwFRuvfhH+pnOjXJqP210X8SQGh6fBI858Ic3pD daWrwT5YYX7/HqmTGiXOT7rUHQqfZzmq/koTbfiqr+5ynjUAZG9a1cPprFJ448dYFP66S6 C95tC5MXeOIyS5aweXH20yux/8XZOj6H/zhC1DxOHufPPT6/NT9rrl1wpJgm8Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=iOkpVGml; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.54 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=iOkpVGml; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 837AF11F53 X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: rX91wlJhhttB Tim Cross wrote on 21.04.2021 11:50: > I find bug fixes are applied very quickly. Enhancements and extensions > are introduced more conservatively, but I think that is a positive > rather than negative aspect of org development. For many users, org is > already very feature rich/complete. This is my view as an org user too. I read this list with interest and appreciate bug fixes. Similar to what Eric stated, much of my work flow depends on org. Therefore my main interest is in stability and consistency of org. best regards, Heinz