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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1614367550; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Hc5GemzXmAZ+viASA2usCZZhERqBQ3nLsjtVMJsZC4U=; b=kjPNbZA2hS/h5TF0ubSEfTCCevURoNTClCVBGxG30AcVEDNGi+3nxUVMPfGyamFpBGK1Sv MCF582ek8ZKeWf97ySqbzMJSQDY1PBTLyFLqEPYbjL8Z+SFcleoCh/JoSxBkUwnehrDODR kDllNM3rgq3IzyO+UZ5SPRLYiyQ9uPyTHg/7PsvjIbKNEGkwUDQkcyy8a2SV2ggH/+3QH5 9gJSkfoTK+xACyix/Q7Hf0c71WTWkxkKkOscWKNV/ot0sqOgQISfCueogl8sAzVqN5DraR K2W1c0sxgf5+xAaDIOE21C13O9y1/mqpvPalNR2IoLryQ1r97CYiUpMJpBB88g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1614367550; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XSoJ2GHUy21moESCFA/QzLZysxogbi/kuWJ/5V3ThA2yBEsGwgJ5rOwjmUFGiRBy8U8gY+ uX0izUIv44zWiV54gBMtlz1SOpQsTM2AVG3cs0Vxen0y28cOuZwHfezECwjaFeZr29MTin mLJU+ZVYTONfMZFz1wp7RsX76PvoTzV3d0Q+IZ5UV6aNRD8bSfsE6k0nw6TdAlAZHt2d4y D5QiHN/5FNSJwkx8sGpI1HcpCPvSFGIYln6fi87M3u5tE0xO6Wd1nia7LuFKR2gJNzVeRa FVLBEyynDoF5PF3Wnq7hpZx8qoiEIOPIhAzQTtDVsKsNUvVX8nKFBtMAfW9JbA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=isnotmyreal.name header.s=default header.b=oYr24EX1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.37 Authentication-Results: aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=isnotmyreal.name header.s=default header.b=oYr24EX1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2FAE5848D X-Spam-Score: -1.37 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 1ZuamkrIOkQO On 2021-02-26 01:22, David Masterson wrote: > There are many ways of maintaining history in a group of Org files: > 1. Archive within a file > 2. Archive to a separate (archive) file > 3. Special TODO types for history > 4. Special TAG types for history > 5. etc. > > My question is, if you have meetings/phone calls as TODOs, what is the > preferred way to handle when they move into history so that, *much* > later, you can easily produce a list of all of the meetings/phone calls > with dates and times of them? The issue (I think) is, when you mark > the > TODO as DONE, you lose the info of what the TODO was originally. > > Suggestions I agree with what others already said about logging state changes with timestamps. I do the same and find this an extremely handy place to put "metadata about the task, or reason that it changed" and keep it separate/hidden from the main body of the task (which in my mind should only contain info about the subject of the headline / task itself). However when you say "history" I suspect you mean "archive" and this is something I have been thinking about a long time as well. Because I think the current way that Orgmode handles this is a bit naive / simplistic. Well, at least there is the option to create your own archival function, which I suspect I will do at some point. In fact I have been thinking about the best way to do that for some time already. Cheers, TRS-80