Re: How to safely update from ver. 8.2.10 to 8.3.x

[Maria Shinoto <maria@shinoto.de>]

Thanks again, this was really helpful, and I understand the logic.

To explain what worked:

- My Emacs was simply the downloaded version of "EmacsForOSX", which 
resides in the application folder.

- The path to the emacs file that opens from the Terminal turned out to be
      /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs

- So the Terminal commands was

      /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -Q

- After checking that only the 2 regular buffers were active and orgmode 
not loaded, I installed the package with the package manager.



It worked well, my org-mode is now the newest version, and updating this 
way was really easy.


May I suggest that the procedure that Malcolm explained so well will be 
part of the explanation/wiki/manuals?

Beginners like me can become confused -- software bug, stupid user bug, 
what else...


Cheers to the list,
Maria




Am 16.08.16 um 13:19 schrieb Cook, Malcolm:
> Answers are out of order:
>
> (2) - oops , you are correct.  What you want is:
>
>> emacs -Q -batch -eval "(progn (require 'package)
>> (package-initialize) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install
>> 'org))"
>
>
> (1) - you have 2 copies of emacs installed on your mac probably one
> in /usr/bin/emacs .  How did you install the gui version?  If
> Homebrew, then the other is in /usr/local/bin/emacs.  If EmacsForOSX
> then, if I remember correctly, it is in /Applications/Emacs.app which
> is really just a folder and which contains in it Emacs the actual
> emacs program to run.  In any case, just replace emacs in the above
> command line with the full path to the emacs you are using, like
> this:
>
>> /usr/local/bin/emacs -Q -batch -eval "(progn (require 'package)
>> (package-initialize) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install
>> 'org))"
>
> or this
>
>> /Applications/Emacs.app/emacs -Q -batch -eval "(progn (require
>> 'package) (package-initialize) (package-refresh-contents)
>> (package-install 'org))"
>
>
> (3)  yes - start a fresh emacs and don't load your init.el file,
> using the -Q option, like this
>
>> /Applications/Emacs.app/emacs -Q
>
> And then don't load any .org files!!! Go directly to the package
> manager and refresh your org installation like any other package.
>
> ~ malcolm_cook@stowers.org
>
> ________________________________________ From: Maria Shinoto
> <maria@shinoto.de> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 6:06 PM To: Cook,
> Malcolm Subject: Re: [O] How to safely update from ver. 8.2.10 to
> 8.3.x
>
> Hi,
>
> so, it was good that I asked, thanks for your advice.
>
> I got the idea, but there are two questions left. I prefer simple
> org since I am a beginner and want to start with the standards.
>
>> emacs -Q -batch -eval "(progn (require 'package) (add-to-list
>> 'package-archives '(\"org\" . \"http://orgmode.org/elpa/\"))
>> (package-initialize) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install
>> 'org-plus-contrib))"
>
>> Note: I use org-plus-contrib from melpa instead of org.  If you
>> want just org, you could simply:
>>
>> emacs -Q -batch -eval "(progn (require 'package)
>> (package-initialize) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install
>> 'org-plus-contrib))"
>
> (1) When I check my emacs version in the Terminal (running Mac OS X
> 10.11), I get version "GNU Emacs 22.1.1", while asking from the GUI
> shows version 24.5 (9.0). I do not understand why this can happen,
> how these are separated and how they influence each other.
> Furthermore, if they are separate, how should an installation from
> the Terminal influence the situation in the GUI?
>
>
>
> (2) Your second script is different, but it still deals with
> "org-plus-contrib". Could you verify the script so that I can be
> sure that I install the right org-mode version?
>
>
> (3) Is there a way to safely install the org-mode package from the
> GUI package manager? This would be easiest, since I intend to go on
> with the GUI emacs. In other words, I am looking for a way to start
> the GUI without org-mode loaded (similar to "emacs -Q" in the
> Terminal).
>
>
> Thanks again, Maria
>
>