Re: Could a citation act as a link, or a link to be exported as a citation?

[Ypo <ypuntot@gmail.com>]

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Thanks, Jonathan

I don't know much about Hyperbole, but it looked kind of aside from 
orgmode. Not sure if I want to add that possible difficulty to orgmode 
parsers.

BTW, in the William's example I added before, it could work org-ref, 
because there are not subtrees, just by citing to the reference in a 
.bib file. But this wouldn't work with subtrees, where each subtree is a 
chapter of the referenced book.

*Reference:*

**

> *** Suárez Falcón, J. C., Recio Saboya, P., San Luis Costas, M. C., y 
> Pozo Cabanillas, M. P. (2019). /Introducción al análisis de datos: 
> Aplicaciones en psicología y ciencias de la salud./ Sanz y Torres
>
> *** Suárez Falcón et al. (2019) "1 Conceptos básicos y Organización de 
> Datos - 1.3. Concepto y Funciones de la Estadística: Descripción e 
> Inferencia"
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ID:       20210607T122433.664964
> :END:
> *
> **
*
*

*Note:*

> * Here you can see *duplicate linking* is needed: one for the Chapter 
> in the Reference file (above) and another one for citations to work to 
> the bibtex file, below.
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ID:       20210607T122524.032860
> :END:
> :LINKS:
> /*- [[id:20210607T122433.664964]]*//*
> *//*- cite:SuarezFalcon.2019.IntroduccionAnalisisDatos*/
> :END:
>
*Bibtex entry:*

**

> *@book{SuarezFalcon.2019.IntroduccionAnalisisDatos,
>   title = {Introducción al análisis de datos: aplicaciones en 
> psicología y ciencias de la salud},
>   shorttitle = {Introducción al análisis de datos},
>   author = {Suárez Falcón, Juan Carlos and RECIO SABOYA, PATRICIA and 
> SAN LUIS COSTAS, MARÍA CONCEPCIÓN and POZO CABANILLAS, MARÍA DEL PILAR},
>   year = {2019},
>   publisher = {Sanz y Torres},
>   address = {Alcorcón},
>   annotation = {OCLC: 1140871590},
>   file = {Z\:\\SuarezFalcon.2019.IntroduccionAnalisisDatos.pdf},
>   isbn = {978-84-17765-42-2},
>   language = {Spanish}
> }*
*
*

Just a thought, maybe superficial and un-needed feature, just in case.

Best regards


El 07/06/2021 a las 10:30, indieterminacy@libre.brussels escribió:
> Hi Bill,
>
> Perhaps its worth looking into Hyperbole?
>
> It has contexts and actions which could work when the cursor is on the 
> link reference. Given it operates well with Orgmode now and has 
> transitioned into globa minor mode some of its deficiencies have been 
> ironed out.
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> June 7, 2021 9:03 AM, "Ypo" <ypuntot@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ypuntot@gmail.com?to=%22Ypo%22%20<ypuntot@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>     I've been reading you about cites. Conversation is above my head,
>     but just in case it could be helpful, I would like to address a
>     frequent problem in the workflow of taking notes, that advanced
>     users suffer too.
>
>     When taking notes, it's usual to make some bibliographical
>     references in one file and some related notes in a different file.
>     I link both using internal links, but it can't be exported
>     directly as a bibliography, which would be cool indeed.
>
>     Could a citation act as a link, or a link to be exported as a
>     citation?
>
>     An example, could the link "[[id:20210607T083216.726761][...]]" be
>     substituted by a cite, that takes you to the reference?
>
>     *Reference (from a .org file, as it is, but if it needed to had
>     /.bib structure/ to kind of "unify" internal links and cites,
>     would be fine too):*
>
>     **** William Denton [wtd@pobox.com <mailto:wtd@pobox.com>]. (29
>     Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0400 (EDT)). /About exporting [Respuesta en
>     emacs-orgmode]./ Lista de correo.
>     :PROPERTIES:
>     :ID: 20210607T083216.726761
>     :END:
>     :LINKS:
>     - [[id:20210607T083216.765049][Memoir could be flexible,]]
>     :END:
>     https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-03/msg00443.html
>     <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-03/msg00443.html>
>     To get better at it, I'd recommend reading the manual for the
>     Memoir class [1]
>     (the first few chapters that talk about page design, at least,
>     then refer to the
>     rest as needed) and Robert Bringhurst's THE ELEMENTS OF
>     TYPOGRAPHIC STYLE [2]
>     (which will give you ideas you can implement and right away your
>     documents will
>     look great).
>
>     Bill
>
>     [1] https://www.ctan.org/pkg/memoir <https://www.ctan.org/pkg/memoir>
>     [2]
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style>
>
>     *Note (it could be a task, or a study note, or a note to write a
>     book in the future...):*
>
>     **** Memoir could be flexible, take a look at it.
>     :PROPERTIES:
>     :ID: 20210607T083216.765049
>     :END:
>     :LINKS:
>     - [[id:20210607T083216.726761][William Denton [wtd@pobox.com
>     <mailto:wtd@pobox.com>]. (29 Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0400 (EDT)).
>     /About exporting [Respuesta en emacs-orgmode]./ Lista de correo.]]
>     :END:
>
>
>

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