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[24.53.187.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f2-20020a056214076200b00692d60c2550sm5651874qvz.87.2024.03.20.16.15.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:15:45 -0700 (PDT) From: JD Smith Message-Id: <409BEDD4-2C5B-4A8B-B452-DC6CAC6DD70F@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_51AC96D4-895C-47AD-90C2-68BB349BC215" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.300.61.1.2\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] "quick-help" popup for org-columns (column view) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:15:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: Adam Porter , slawomir.grochowski@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com, info@protesilaos.com, larsi@gnus.org, Philip Kaludercic , yantar92@posteo.net To: Stefan Kangas References: <87a5oayblv.fsf@gmail.com> <439224bb-ddb7-4ddf-a322-31e8ac162944@alphapapa.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.300.61.1.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2d; envelope-from=jdtsmith@gmail.com; helo=mail-vs1-xe2d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 06:15:19 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.15 X-Spam-Score: -4.15 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0AD3B15154 X-TUID: 1YMIUD6xquxh --Apple-Mail=_51AC96D4-895C-47AD-90C2-68BB349BC215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 8, 2024, at 6:01=E2=80=AFPM, Stefan Kangas = wrote: >=20 > Adam Porter writes: >=20 >> Since transient.el is part of Emacs now, these kinds of menus should >> probably be implemented with it. >=20 > IIUC, this is not a menu, but a reminder of key bindings that are = usable > in that context. Other keybindings here are self-inserting keys, = which > are equally useful, and they wouldn't be available in a transient. Also recall we had a discussion in bug#68236 = = about expanding quick-help to include mode-local personalized binding = shortcuts (with org as a particular target of interest). =20 --Apple-Mail=_51AC96D4-895C-47AD-90C2-68BB349BC215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Feb 8, 2024, at 6:01=E2=80=AFPM, Stefan Kangas = <stefankangas@gmail.com> wrote:

Adam Porter = <adam@alphapapa.net> writes:

Since = transient.el is part of Emacs now, these kinds of menus = should
probably be implemented with it.

IIUC, = this is not a menu, but a reminder of key bindings that are usable
in = that context.  Other keybindings here are self-inserting keys, = which
are equally useful, and they wouldn't be available in a = transient.

Also recall we had = a discussion in bug#68236 about expanding = quick-help to include mode-local personalized binding shortcuts (with = org as a particular target of interest). =  

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