From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package? Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:22:47 +0200 Message-ID: <3C686524-7F6E-4CA0-BB40-61B89EA50088@gmail.com> References: <87ob7z4nzl.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <877gentvmv.fsf@gmx.us> <87wqmmos25.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_26BEC3AD-179F-41F4-8EAA-FD19BD0F8329"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38755) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKCTi-0005Oy-7P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:23:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKCTc-0005k6-DU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:22:58 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::22b]:64250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKCTc-0005ie-5x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:22:52 -0400 Received: by mail-ea0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n15so115373ead.2 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:22:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87wqmmos25.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Rasmus --Apple-Mail=_26BEC3AD-179F-41F4-8EAA-FD19BD0F8329 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 12.9.2013, at 19:42, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Rasmus writes: > >> So the question is should it be a default package? >> >> I think not. E.g. tabu isn't loaded. Amsmath isn't loaded if you >> generate a matrix. > > I think the "tabu" case (and longtable...) is different from "rotating". > > No feature in Org requires "tabu" or "longtable" unless user explicitly > writes "tabu" or "longtable" somewhere in the buffer (i.e. > in :environment attribute). > > On the other hand, "rotating" or "wrapfig" may be needed without the > user knowing about it (e.g. when setting :float or :wrap attributes). > > Therefore, I think "wrapfig" and "rotating" belong to the same boat. > Either we require them both in default packages, or we do not require > any and add a footnote about it in the manual. I have no preference. > > On the same line, we could remove "longtable" from > `org-latex-default-packages-alist', if only to spare a few kittens. Since we are the people who control Org, we can do what we find convenient. I think longtable was added because I personally use it often and find it convenient to have it in the default. I am fine with adding both wrapfig and rotating as long as they do not cause issues with other packages often used. LaTeX is so fast these days that it is not harmful to load a few more packages - as long as no conflicts arise. - Carsten > > WDYT? > > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Goaziou > --Apple-Mail=_26BEC3AD-179F-41F4-8EAA-FD19BD0F8329 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSMhSHAAoJEO+gg/nAZuwMIHgH/0ZYuz1dfbZAQPK/TXG+iKHK DoZuW4Z3QRFjtAk4yVW+WHb5QX2ydDF/zuy2h4E/E1mo56e7ViOuG1JUwmJwT9CK toXKc9HrR2anWy4iDiPc7Ss1vKMJn/jYiQLIt/O0rOt16KJLdVuW4RjYU3fvW658 yAOi4cGk0RvN3BSVI1TlgEWtv7xOCfYRERksKJU3YbipQkkGNhRD2vLXywAKwEbN ak8eweS6pCj+PvAc2Rm69IwUJ8XnvN6Vvx5ITqUdVvowu0q1Qcj2fx2FDONz03S5 Xe7f33pa8XhG4D06x6eAVZub2dj8dkLzuJWkecxuy1t8X5rJrq3nmoVeb/hQ378= =b0rr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_26BEC3AD-179F-41F4-8EAA-FD19BD0F8329--