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From: Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org>
To: Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@uni-tuebingen.de>,
	Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Cc: org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 09:52:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3576b688-51f3-61f7-4d63-b27ba3e1df84@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v988i3gv.fsf@aquinas>

Am 27.04.2021 um 09:36 schrieb Richard Lawrence:
> "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>>> e.g. you can write
>>>
>>> Smith claims foo [(cite): -@Smith2019; -@Smith2020; see also @Jones2018].
>>>
>>> to render
>>>
>>> Smith claims foo (2019; 2020; see also Jones 2018).
> 
>> You identified the same case Andras and I discussed just above.
>>
>> I think the solution is simple; with the updated syntax:
>>
>> [cite/-:@Smith2019;@Smith2020; see also @Jones2018].
>>
>> So the rule is (and this is for the processor to worry about, of
>> course, not org), when a suppress-author style is specified, the
>> suppression only applies to the author of the first citation
>> item/reference. That would generate the output you noted.
> 
> I think I see what you mean after parsing this a few times, but I would
> rephrase the rule, since the way you phrased it initially seemed to
> contradict the example. The point of my example was that author
> suppression should also apply to the author of the *second* reference in
> the list, though that happens to be the same author as the author of the
> first item. So maybe the rule is more like: "when a suppress-author
> style is specified, the suppression only applies to the initial segment
> of citation items/references that have the same author as the first
> reference"?

I think Bruce's point was that author suppresion list items other than 
the first lies in the jurisdiction of the citeproc, and has to be 
handled depending on citation style. (I.e., user input does /not/ matter 
here.)

[cite/-:@Smith2019;@Smith2020; see also @Jones2018].

=> Suppress author in the first item, Smith 2019.
=> whether the author's name in the second list item (Smith 2020) is 
shown depends on the citation style. Some styles repeat the author's 
name, others won't.

For comparison:

[cite:@Smith2019;@Smith2020; see also @Jones2018]

=> Don't suppress author in the first item, Smith 2019.
=> whether the author's name in the second list item (Smith 2020) is 
shown depends on the citation style. Some styles repeat the author's 
name, others won't.

Denis





  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-27  7:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-24 10:52 Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 12:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 17:08 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-24 17:28   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 19:36     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 20:09       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-24 22:51         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-25  5:55           ` András Simonyi
2021-04-25 12:50             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-25 19:48               ` András Simonyi
2021-04-25 20:12                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26  7:53                   ` Denis Maier
2021-04-26  9:05                     ` Denis Maier
2021-04-26  9:34                     ` Joost Kremers
2021-04-26 11:36                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26  7:51     ` Richard Lawrence
2021-04-26  9:33       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27  7:36         ` Richard Lawrence
2021-04-27  7:52           ` Denis Maier [this message]
2021-04-27  8:24             ` Richard Lawrence
2021-04-27 10:05             ` Bruce D'Arcus

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