From: peter.frings@agfa.com
To: Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>,
Puneeth Chaganti <punchagan@gmail.com>,
suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:02:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3247E27F-C23D-4B93-9040-C64C8B7546F1@agfa.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80y5yqpgin.fsf@somewhere.org>
Good morning gents,
I think you nailed it. Thanks!
* Summary
Having the todo list in a daily view is very convenient, but not provided out-of-the-box. The enabling of it used to be relatively simply with a single variable, but in more recent version it’s now reserved for org-savvy people. Hooray for http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-custom-agenda-commands.html
* What the problem was
In Emacs 7.7, the variable org-agenda-include-all-todo no longer affects the daily/weekly view as documented.
** org-agenda-include-all-todo no longer works
The docstrings states:
======================== docstring ========================
Set means weekly/daily agenda will always contain all TODO entries.
The TODO entries will be listed at the top of the agenda, before
the entries for specific days.
This option is deprecated, it is better to define a block agenda instead.
================================================
Note that it says it’s deprecated, but it’s still present and describes the behavior I was used to. But it doesn’t. Which is in-line what what Puneeth mentioned (commit 770c2ddfba5c173d1b33e7b247b49a8188994f76).
** Terminology
Notice that org-agenda-include-all-todo’s docstring mentions ‘block agenda’, as does the ‘Agenda View’ chapter in the manual. But that term is nowhere to be found in Org’s customization options. You must first find ‘Agenda Custom Commands’, but there the docstring mentions “You can also define a set of commands, to create a __composite agenda__ buffer.” So there is a problem of terminology here.
* Thoughts
I do question this change a bit. I find it very convenient to have my to-do’s (scheduled or not) in my day view. Now, I must make a block agenda to get this. OK, I can handle that. However, out-of-the box behavior should suit beginners, and asking them to make a block agenda as the first thing to do is a bit heavy, no? (Have you seen the customization page for that? Frightening!)
So, to get what I used to have[1] I need to define a custom view like this:
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'(("h" "All to-do's and Agenda"
((alltodo)
(agenda "")))))
[1] It’s not identical because of the block headers, but that might be something that is customizable. Haven’t checked it yet.
Also, in the older version you could type `d’ or `w' to switch to day or week view from anywhere in the buffer; now you must make sure the cursor is on the agenda black and not in the todo black. This is a bit annoying.
* Example
Using GNU Emacs 23.3.1
The example uses the todo list from Suvayu’s mail:
======================== ~/planning/minimal.org ========================
* TODO Plumber to fix leak
<2011-08-04 Thu>
* TODO RooStats tutorial
SCHEDULED: <2011-01-25 Tue 09:00>
* TODO Analysis deadline
DEADLINE: <2011-08-19 Fri 15:00>
* TODO Read Dune
The above 3 entries show up in the agenda, but this one doesn’t.
================================================
And a minimal emacs init file:
======================== ~/.emacs-minimal ========================
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\ |org_archive\\|txt\\)$" . org-mode))
(setq org-agenda-files '("~/planning/minimal.org"))
(require 'org-install)
(require 'org-habit)
(global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
================================================
Start with
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs --debug-init -Q -l ~/.emacs-minimal
** Behavior with Org 6.33x
Org-mode 6.33x as version with Emacs 23)
*** ‘out of the box’ setup
Do `C-c a a’
========================Weekly agenda shows=============================
Week-agenda (W33):
Monday 15 August 2011 W33
Tuesday 16 August 2011
Wednesday 17 August 2011
Thursday 18 August 2011
Friday 19 August 2011
8:00...... ----------------
10:00...... ----------------
12:00...... ----------------
14:00...... ----------------
minimal: 15:00...... Deadline: TODO Analysis deadline
16:00...... ----------------
18:00...... ----------------
20:00...... ----------------
minimal: Sched.207x: TODO RooStats tutorial
Saturday 20 August 2011
Sunday 21 August 2011
-------------------------------------------------------------
========================Daily agenda shows=============================
Day-agenda (W33):
Friday 19 August 2011
8:00...... ----------------
10:00...... ----------------
12:00...... ----------------
14:00...... ----------------
minimal: 15:00...... Deadline: TODO Analysis deadline
16:00...... ----------------
18:00...... ----------------
20:00...... ----------------
minimal: Sched.207x: TODO RooStats tutorial
================================================
*** To include the TODO items
Add this to the init file (or evaluate):
(setq org-agenda-include-all-todo t)
Then, `C-a a a’
========================Weekly agenda shows=============================
All currently open TODO items:
minimal: TODO Plumber to fix leak
minimal: TODO RooStats tutorial
minimal: TODO Analysis deadline
minimal: TODO Read Dune
Week-agenda (W33):
Monday 15 August 2011 W33
Tuesday 16 August 2011
Wednesday 17 August 2011
Thursday 18 August 2011
Friday 19 August 2011
8:00...... ----------------
10:00...... ----------------
12:00...... ----------------
14:00...... ----------------
minimal: 15:00...... Deadline: TODO Analysis deadline
16:00...... ----------------
18:00...... ----------------
20:00...... ----------------
minimal: Sched.207x: TODO RooStats tutorial
Saturday 20 August 2011
Sunday 21 August 2011
================================================
========================Weekly agenda shows=============================
All currently open TODO items:
minimal: TODO Plumber to fix leak
minimal: TODO RooStats tutorial
minimal: TODO Analysis deadline
minimal: TODO Read Dune
Day-agenda (W33):
Friday 19 August 2011
8:00...... ----------------
10:00...... ----------------
12:00...... ----------------
14:00...... ----------------
minimal: 15:00...... Deadline: TODO Analysis deadline
16:00...... ----------------
18:00...... ----------------
20:00...... ----------------
minimal: Sched.207x: TODO RooStats tutorial
================================================
** Now with org 7.7, same emacs.
emacs init file now loads a more recent version of org and sets org-agenda-include-all-todo:
======================== ~/.emacs-minimal ========================
;; use more recent org
(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/.emacs.d/src/org/lisp"))
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\ |org_archive\\|txt\\)$" . org-mode))
(setq org-agenda-files '("~/planning/minimal.org"))
(require 'org-install)
(require 'org-habit)
;;; expecting to get the TODO items in the daily agenda view!
;;;
(setq org-agenda-include-all-todo t)
(global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
================================================
Now, the same `C-c a a’ yields
======================== Week view ========================
Week-agenda (W33):
Monday 15 August 2011 W33
Tuesday 16 August 2011
Wednesday 17 August 2011
Thursday 18 August 2011
Friday 19 August 2011
8:00...... ----------------
9:26...... now - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
10:00...... ----------------
12:00...... ----------------
14:00...... ----------------
minimal: 15:00...... Deadline: TODO Analysis deadline
16:00...... ----------------
18:00...... ----------------
20:00...... ----------------
minimal: Sched.207x: TODO RooStats tutorial
Saturday 20 August 2011
Sunday 21 August 2011
================================================
======================== Day view ========================
Day-agenda (W33):
Friday 19 August 2011
8:00...... ----------------
10:00...... ----------------
12:00...... ----------------
14:00...... ----------------
minimal: 15:00...... Deadline: TODO Analysis deadline
16:00...... ----------------
18:00...... ----------------
20:00...... ----------------
minimal: Sched.207x: TODO RooStats tutorial
================================================
No more TODO overview, even with org-agenda-include-all-todo set. Clearly, it’s not only deprecated, but completely ignored. Hence, it should be removed.
I hope I’ve managed to better describe the problems I had :-)
Cheers and thanks for the help!
Peter.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-19 9:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-18 13:58 missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade Peter Frings
2011-08-18 14:45 ` suvayu ali
2011-08-18 16:36 ` peter.frings
2011-08-18 16:44 ` suvayu ali
2011-08-18 17:41 ` peter.frings
2011-08-18 21:01 ` Puneeth Chaganti
2011-08-18 21:16 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-08-19 9:02 ` peter.frings [this message]
2011-08-19 9:59 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-08-19 10:35 ` Peter Frings
2011-08-19 10:42 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-08-19 11:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-08-19 11:39 ` peter.frings
2011-08-19 20:30 ` Viktor Rosenfeld
2011-08-19 10:33 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-08-19 13:08 ` Bastien
2011-08-19 13:12 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-08-19 13:23 ` Bastien
2011-08-19 13:56 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-08-18 21:51 ` suvayu ali
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