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From: "Sébastien Miquel" <sebastien.miquel@posteo.eu>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Support for tagging (special) blocks
Date: Thu,  1 Sep 2022 16:40:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30d5a0be-4651-3f41-8b53-91acd4a86ca5@posteo.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ler3oc4u.fsf@localhost>

Hi,

Ihor Radchenko writes:
 > They do not. Tags are only considered inside headlines. Trying to allow
 > tags outside headlines will require major changes across the whole Org
 > codebase and will still make things incompatible with third party
 > packages, like org-ql. Not to mention the whole new concept for block
 > syntax.

Tags on block do not need to have the same support as headlines tags.
I'm not suggesting they should interact with the agenda or whatnot.
Support could be behind a user option, and consist only of say easy
tag edition, and `#+exclude_tags:` support. With that scope, the
implementation should be fairly simple. As for third party packages,
it is up to them whether to extend their features to tagged blocks ;
in some case it might not make sense.

 > If one wants to add "tags" or other keywords associated with blocks or
 > other Org elements, the right tool to use is affiliated keywords. But
 > note that Org search infrastructure is tailored towards searching
 > headlines.

Two inconvenients with using affiliated keywords.
  1. There would be no uniform treatment with headline tags. In my use,
     I have the same tags on headline and blocks, and I filter the
     export according to them with #+exclude_tags.
  2. They waste too much space. Say I have some 20 short exercices
     (represented by special blocks). Since I dot not display the
     #+end_ line, each of them takes 2 or 3 lines in my screen. If I
     want to tag those using affiliated keywords that makes for a 50%
     or 33% size increase, with very poor readability.

On a slightly related note, I find it quite unfortunate that one
presently cannot make use of the #+begin_ line of special blocks to
set some kind of optional title instead of using #+name or
#+attr_latex. That's a lot of wasted real estate.


-- 
Sébastien Miquel


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-01 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-01  4:13 Support for tagging (special) blocks Payas Relekar
2022-09-01  6:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-01 16:40   ` Sébastien Miquel [this message]
2022-09-02 13:11     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-02 15:32       ` Sébastien Miquel
2022-09-03  8:41         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-03 10:00           ` Sébastien Miquel
2022-09-04  4:54             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-04 16:58               ` Sébastien Miquel
2022-10-05  7:49                 ` Ihor Radchenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-08-31 20:10 Sébastien Miquel
2022-08-31 20:38 ` Kaushal Modi
2022-09-01  6:59 ` Fraga, Eric

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