From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: pete phillips Subject: Re: depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:10:50 +0100 Message-ID: <27900.1192122650@lap1.smtl.co.uk> References: <6dbd4d000710080626i52f0f0t9354addc33c0efee@mail.gmail.com> <20071008134353.GA10774@odin.demosthenes.org> <877ilxmimn.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <20071008202652.GA18426@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <87k5pxnicj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <8a4d082edbc607440d4f12604b2f6332@science.uva.nl> <18295.1192118022@lap1.smtl.co.uk> <20071011163712.GC6275@odin.demosthenes.org> Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig1bi-00039c-Ty for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:13:58 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig1bh-000386-Qf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:13:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig1bh-00037y-NW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:13:57 -0400 Received: from mailhost.smtl.co.uk ([193.131.77.174]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ig1bh-0006Mr-B7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:13:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.smtl.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBE25D474 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:13:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.smtl.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ktinga.smtl.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06139-10 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:10:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from lap1.smtl.co.uk (lap1.smtl.co.uk [192.168.1.18]) by mailhost.smtl.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B611F64C0B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:10:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from lap1.smtl.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lap1.smtl.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1204EC2C4 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:10:51 +0100 (BST) In-reply-to: <20071011163712.GC6275@odin.demosthenes.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> "Russell" == Russell Adams writes: Russell> however you must realize that a tool meant to maintain Russell> personal lists of items may eventually grow to encompass Russell> larger projects. :-) I do realise this. But the question that needs to be answered is whether this is necessarily the best path ? Russell> I think the reason this discussion took off is that if an Russell> existing project management tool worked the way we wanted Russell> it to, this would be a moot discussion. As it is, it Russell> appears that none of the traditional PM style tools Russell> integrate with Org use or provide similar functionality. I Russell> know I've been frustrated trying to export Org data to MS Russell> Project and keep them in sync. It could be that you are trying to use the wrong tool ? Task Juggler http://www.taskjuggler.org/ is cross platform and will do all the PM you need out of the box. As the system is based on a text mode, I am willing to bet that you could write some perl or other code to move your org file into it. Possibly the other way as well. Don't get me wrong - I have used PM tools myself for very big projects (in fact I used to maintain the PM FAQ document on Usenet many years ago http://www.non.com/news.answers/proj-plan-faq.html), but I just question if org-mode is the right path to follow for this. Let me explain my concern. If Carsten decides to move along the PM route (and it is entirely his call), then I suspect that the amount of code required to implement all the necessary functionality will be huge. It would probably dwarf the present org-mode code base. At that stage, the ability of Carsten to respond so quickly to requests for features and bug fixes will, I think, be compromised. Also, it is bound to have an effect on the speed of org mode. My main concern is that the focus of org-mode will have shifted away from where I want it to be, which I admit is a personal concern and perhaps a little selfish :-) Anyway, just my thoughts. Have a good evening all. Pete