From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Definition of "unscheduled" task Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:49:57 +0200 Message-ID: <2706d3f0ffce5163033e68529d552912@science.uva.nl> References: <47118E6C.7040605@gmail.com> <03538477831a4ab9769f528b92313aaf@science.uva.nl> <4712399A.3000106@gmail.com> <563ac7f46fb4b64e3dd983c8144d788a@science.uva.nl> <4713BAA3.1070702@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IhgFh-0003pu-J6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:50:05 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IhgFg-0003pW-QM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:50:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhgFg-0003pR-Ki for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:50:04 -0400 Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IhgFf-00075U-Jj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:50:03 -0400 Received: from korteweg.uva.nl ([146.50.98.70]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IhgFb-0007el-2x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:50:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4713BAA3.1070702@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Wanrong Lin Cc: org-mode list On Oct 15, 2007, at 21:08, Wanrong Lin wrote: > > Sounds like my argument did not convince you. :-) No, you misunderstand. I do see why you might want to mark appointments TODO (even if I would not do it). But "scheduled" in the context of Org has to do with *planning*. You *plan* to work on this item that day, but it is not ab absolute fix like a dentist appointment. So I think it is wrong to turn these off with a variable that contains the word "scheduled" in the name. - Carsten > But a new variable works for me. I really appreciate the extra effort > you take. > > Wanrong > > Carsten Dominik wrote: >> Well, >> >> I am not about the change the meaning of "scheduled", but I can give >> you a new >> variable `org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date'. How about that? >> >> - Carsten >> >> On Oct 14, 2007, at 17:45, Wanrong Lin wrote: >> >>> >>> That's certainly an option. But usually I like to mark any >>> "actionable" items with "TODO", while using non-TODO entries to >>> record information, or to group TODOs into logical groups. Like >>> this: >>> >>> * Dental >>> *** TODO See Dr. Xyz for cleaning >>> <2007-11-29 Thu 09:00> >>> * Medical >>> *** TODO See Dr. Abc for routine exam >>> * Useful Websites >>> >>> Conceptually, I think it is cleaner that way (if the entry >>> indicates some action, have a "TODO" keyword. How that action is >>> scheduled is a separate issue.). Physiologically, If I know in my >>> org system certain entries need action but don't have a TODO >>> keyword, my trust of the system will decrease since there are many >>> functions in org-mode that operates on TODO entries only (or better >>> so). Also, with a TODO keyword, I can change the state of it (I can >>> cancel it, I can mark it done and etc.). Further, sometimes you just >>> want to create a TODO entry like "See Dr. Abc", and later make it an >>> appointment by adding a time stamp. It seems awkward to me that I >>> need to remove the "TODO" keyword once I have that item scheduled as >>> an appointment. >>> >>> In short, I think we should mark appointments as "TODO" entries and >>> have appointments removed from the TODO item list if >>> "ignore-scheduled" is turned on. >>> >>> Wanrong >>> >>> Carsten Dominik wrote: >>>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:35, Wanrong Lin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to follow GTD's principle that tasks should be >>>>> reviewed regularly. So I first turn on >>>>> "org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled", and do a "List of all TODO >>>>> entries, and then review all tasks in the list. However, I found >>>>> that tasks with plain active time stamps ("appointment tasks") are >>>>> also listed. Should we exclude them when >>>>> org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled is set to "t"? >>>> >>>> Wouldn't it be better to not mark appointments TODO? >>>> >>>> - Carsten >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Carsten Dominik >> Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek" >> Universiteit van Amsterdam >> Kruislaan 403 >> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam >> phone: +31 20 525 7477 >> > > -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek" Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477