Re: Definition of "unscheduled" task

[Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>]

On Oct 15, 2007, at 21:08, Wanrong Lin wrote:

>
> Sounds like my argument did not convince you. :-)

No, you misunderstand.  I do see why you might want to mark
appointments TODO (even if I would not do it).  But
"scheduled" in the context of Org has to do with *planning*.
You *plan* to work on this item that day, but it is not ab
absolute fix like a dentist appointment.  So I think it
is  wrong to turn these off with a variable that contains the
word "scheduled" in the name.

- Carsten

> But a new variable works for me. I really appreciate the extra effort 
> you take.
>
> Wanrong
>
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> I am not about the change the meaning of "scheduled", but I can give 
>> you a new
>> variable `org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date'.  How about that?
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2007, at 17:45, Wanrong Lin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That's certainly an option. But usually I like to mark any 
>>> "actionable" items with "TODO", while using non-TODO entries to 
>>> record information, or to group TODOs into logical groups. Like 
>>> this:
>>>
>>> * Dental
>>> *** TODO See Dr. Xyz for cleaning
>>>   <2007-11-29 Thu 09:00>
>>> * Medical
>>> *** TODO See Dr. Abc for routine exam
>>> * Useful Websites
>>>
>>> Conceptually, I think it is  cleaner that way (if the entry 
>>> indicates some action, have a "TODO" keyword. How that action is 
>>> scheduled is a separate issue.). Physiologically, If I know in my 
>>> org system certain entries need action but don't have a TODO 
>>> keyword, my trust of the system will decrease since there are many 
>>> functions in org-mode that operates on TODO entries only (or better 
>>> so). Also, with a TODO keyword, I can change the state of it (I can 
>>> cancel it, I can mark it done and etc.). Further, sometimes you just 
>>> want to create a TODO entry like "See Dr. Abc", and later make it an 
>>> appointment by adding a time stamp. It seems awkward to me that I 
>>> need to remove the "TODO" keyword once I have that item scheduled as 
>>> an appointment.
>>>
>>> In short, I think we should mark appointments as "TODO" entries and 
>>> have appointments removed from the TODO item list if 
>>> "ignore-scheduled" is turned on.
>>>
>>> Wanrong
>>>
>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:35, Wanrong Lin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to follow GTD's principle that tasks should be 
>>>>> reviewed regularly. So I first turn on 
>>>>> "org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled", and do a "List of all TODO 
>>>>> entries, and then review all tasks in the list. However, I found 
>>>>> that tasks with plain active time stamps ("appointment tasks") are 
>>>>> also listed. Should we exclude them when 
>>>>> org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled is set to "t"?
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be better to not mark appointments TODO?
>>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Carsten Dominik
>> Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
>> Universiteit van Amsterdam
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>
>

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Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477