From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tony day Subject: org-anywhere Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:16:22 +1100 Message-ID: <26E1F5C1-BE45-4DC4-ACA5-D974D1A856AD@gmail.com> References: <87y5j5vtji.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57133) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TOeiq-0004C2-HB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:16:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TOeip-00063G-Gl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:16:28 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:52766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TOeip-00063C-8Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:16:27 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rq2so8747220pbb.0 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:16:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y5j5vtji.fsf@Rainer.invalid> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" I've been catching up on the mailing list, and thinking about my personal use case versus other typical patterns. I thought I would share a thought with the group. I would divide use cases into three main cohorts: - /org-planning/: org files consist mostly of planning and tracking content (lets call this =3Dflow=3D). What is being worked on = in this type of usage (lets call this =3Dstuff=3D) exists predominantly outside the org-mode environment. - /org-everywhere/: both the =3Dstuff=3D and the =3Dflow=3D exist within an org file. Org-mode is everywhere (and that's how we like it, oi!). - /org-anywhere/: where the =3Dflow=3D gets applied to the =3Dstuff=3D by making the =3Dstuff=3D an org file. But it's more about the = =3Dstuff=3D then the =3Dflow=3D. I'm in the /org-anywhere/ category. I use org-mode as a plain-text content creation tool utilising headers, plain lists, tables, babel and export technology (=3Dstuff=3D) and, sometimes, I use scheduling, deadlines, =3Dtodo=3D state tracking and the agenda (=3Dflow=3D).=20 As a result, I - don't like the visual clutter of dates outside of drawers, or drawers - love column view and header cycling - often find myself stripping an org file completely of org =3Dflow=3D = guff and not just to export but because seeing a deadline way in the past is bad for morale (just saying). - I can and do ignore the agenda for weeks at a time. So, for the way my brain thinks, there are a few org-mode design features that get in the way. - a =3Dblank=3D =3Dtodo=3D state is implicitly seen as not a state at = all. I see it as a state (which often is =3Ddone=3D). - scheduled and deadline dates cannot be stored in drawers - drawers cannot be completely hidden - I would like a org-remove-all-(flow)-guff option Does anyone have similar issues? I'd like to have a go at fixing some of this but would like to know if it would be generally useful to others, and what priorities may be.=20 Tony