From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:50:59 -0400 Message-ID: <26419.1283179859@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> References: <4C76A590.9050800@ccbr.umn.edu> <20100827074111.38ed3280.alantyree@gmail.com> Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42099 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oq5hr-0002S6-Di for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:51:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq5hp-0003Pf-1C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:51:31 -0400 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]:45929) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq5ho-0003PN-Jj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:51:29 -0400 Received: from gamaville.dokosmarshall.org ([unknown] [173.76.32.106]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L7Y00GE9ZWZH320@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:51:00 -0500 (CDT) In-reply-to: Message from Carsten Dominik of "Mon\, 30 Aug 2010 09\:43\:22 +0200." List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode , Alan L Tyree Carsten Dominik wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I have not followed this thread closely, so if the discussion ends > in something we should change in Org, please write to me and let me > know explicitly. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 Erik Iverson might have a different take but my take is that there is no major issue. Two minor issues: One possible change to org is an addition to the documentation recommending the texlive-fonts-extra package: it includes the cm-super Type1 fonts - type1 fonts behave better with Evince (and possibly other PDF viewers) than type3 fonts. The other possible change that Erik identified is the deletion of the t1enc package from the list of packages that org includes in exported LaTeX by default. I haven't tried without it, but it does indeed seem to be an obsolete remnant of times long past. The TeX FAQ (http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=3Dt1enc ) says: ,---- | Why use fontenc rather than t1enc? |=20 | In the very earliest days of LaTeX2e, the only way to use the T1 | encoding was t1enc; with the summer 1994 =E2=80=9Cproduction=E2=80=9D rel= ease, the | fontenc package appeared, and provided comprehensive support for use of | the encoding. |=20 | Nevertheless, the t1enc package remains (as part of the LaTeX 2.09 | compatibility code), but it does very little: it merely selects font | encoding T1, and leaves to the user the business of generating the | character codes required. |=20 | Generating such character codes could be a simple matter, if the T1 | encoding matched any widely-supported encoding standard, since in that | case, one might expect one=E2=80=99s keyboard to generate the character | codes. However, the T1 encoding is a mix of several standard encodings, | and includes code points in areas of the table which standard encodings | specifically exclude, so no T1 keyboards have been (or ever will be) | manufactured. |=20 | By contrast, the fontenc package generates the T1 code points from | ordinary LaTeX commands (e.g., it generates the =C3=A9 character codepoint | from the command \=E2=80=99e). So, unless you have program-generated T1 i= nput, | use \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} rather than \usepackage{t1enc}. `---- Nick