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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: alain.cochard@unistra.fr Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-TUID: XUwRfYtIHZLP Ihor Radchenko writes on Sat 11 Feb 2023 18:22: > We can indeed at such warning, but it will probably be not very > helpful. I don't understand this. And isn't it better to have a more accurate manual anyway=3F Apart from that, since the default value in 9.6 is 'smart' ('nil' in 9.5), I wonder if the sentence "Setting =E2=80=98org-fold-catch-invisible-edits=E2=80=99 to non-=E2= =80=98nil=E2=80=99 helps preventing this." is still the most appropriate. Also, this is another instance where 'C-h v' with the cursor on 'org-fold-catch-invisible-edits' does not offer it right away in the minibuffer. I am surprised since it does so in 9.5 (with 'org-catch-invisible-edit'). > Only typing, deleting char forward/backward and meta-return are > considering invisible edits now. Thanks. It is helpful to me to know that. --=20 EOST (=C3=89cole et Observatoire des Sciences de la Terre)=20 ITE (Institut Terre & Environnement) | alain.cochard@unistra.fr 5 rue Ren=C3=A9 Descartes [bureau 110] | Phone: +33 (0)3 68 85 50 44= =20 F-67084 Strasbourg Cedex, France | [ slot available for rent ]