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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: alain.cochard@unistra.fr Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672615215; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=j6PJ0q3ri4FkN/tzElOB6bH4SoJwSO0UjMbo5CAPsakaAYkGOpb+i7t2jdapUIO9bvR+QT Qy+eG67yaYl35DkIDCq/Hz7YO79tiY6G5pEtzHLm4pMtFpFdcaUL9fcrlPSMPR9lw6aWfA TZ0HNuzPPt2+WnUiKyzbVKSIquAOtvkMcBm8jFo7eLg5HtasYjqYNQ4hJEWz4gzNLNY1cI 8ejrKIiIrUlJppb7JGKsB+5NuOvZ+W3QVebMLqHmADtCqARbX+hhjs5jIp9msri+Gb6dFi J7D1RnsGCU3fZICN6gyq8m2LBkBxShFF2r98epYdwzp1rQmCA7h8AhlEobDGcQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=unistra.fr header.s=CF279DD4-6F58-4C59-BB33-73FDC6DFC1E3 header.b=rWewALzF; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672615215; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=NAHN3M6/QEfgfF51rJ6HNbcw1Mr6C6Oshi8N7Mazokw=; b=XdLXcIb2TS6Yxx+zU2ei1uS25ewvajjEe/tmNZLSZPCtb9ryAeGL5eXArbeEs2lfUmGLXY 0QOkux8bvonleXeBTSz4PQfoddh9LjnjtqkMAWxZuRe6YN/13YCl13yOdXaBQLESK9f7lf g+Dtp+pUUGkprfXJOmYeprZ/597xbCZ5eB7n29ZtRfZZmfZ8vvxxWbu5Ymm11MtBSC5flt Ql2Okyc9e1h9o/U08zEhsgQ5kdIljEn0zdrOpU5Kr1YzOHE60GAaLcsyg1ApGylMjz3bqf uo714Cgg3xcGQrwKV7tSPGKpPAOdHV5HdcyNZo26k7A64jmscviHlrITyawwpA== X-Spam-Score: -8.61 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6607539908 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=unistra.fr header.s=CF279DD4-6F58-4C59-BB33-73FDC6DFC1E3 header.b=rWewALzF; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.61 X-TUID: tZns4yB3Fio7 With an org file like * h #+begin=5Fexport ascii foo #+end=5Fexport putting the cursor on 'foo' and doing M-x org-up-element brings the cursor on '* h'. Same with the following blocks: =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fcomment=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fcomment=E2=80=99= =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fexample=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fexample=E2=80=99= =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fexport=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fexport=E2=80=99= =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fexport html=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fexport=E2=80= =99 =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fexport latex=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fexport=E2= =80=99 =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fsrc=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fsrc=E2=80=99 (I tr= ied org and lisp) =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fverse=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fverse=E2=80=99 But for those two blocks: =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fcenter=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fcenter=E2=80=99= =E2=80=98#+begin=5Fquote=E2=80=99 ... =E2=80=98#+end=5Fquote=E2=80=99 the cursor is moved to the beginning of the block instead, which I find strange. Incidentally, is there a definition understandable for the basic user of what an "org element" is=3F I could not find one after a (quick) Internet search, not even in https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-element-api.html https://orgmode.org/worg/org-syntax.html (even if I sure it's between the lines...) --=20 EOST (=C3=89cole et Observatoire des Sciences de la Terre)=20 ITE (Institut Terre & Environnement) | alain.cochard@unistra.fr 5 rue Ren=C3=A9 Descartes [bureau 110] | Phone: +33 (0)3 68 85 50 44= =20 F-67084 Strasbourg Cedex, France | [ slot available for rent ]