From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id IHqRM8enmWMWJQAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:39:03 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id +LuVM8enmWPpcwEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:39:03 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7546D8D33 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:39:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5P9V-0002xt-Tt; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 05:38:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5P9G-0002tk-U7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 05:38:03 -0500 Received: from smtpout01-ext2.partage.renater.fr ([194.254.240.33]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5P9F-0008To-4E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 05:38:02 -0500 Received: from zmtaauth04.partage.renater.fr (zmtaauth04.partage.renater.fr [194.254.241.26]) by smtpout10.partage.renater.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3936349A; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:37:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 130.79.11.24 (unknown [194.254.241.250]) by zmtaauth04.partage.renater.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 39D051C0599; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:00:26 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <25497.40629.149438.329818@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:00:21 +0100 From: Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Does variable 'org-goto-interface' exist? In-Reply-To: <87359is9li.fsf@localhost> References: <25496.15817.260616.475525@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <878rjbejgu.fsf@localhost> <25496.19258.682537.503614@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87edt3cyvh.fsf@localhost> <87359is9li.fsf@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 27.2 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.6 at clamav03 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Renater-Ptge-SpamState: clean X-Renater-Ptge-SpamScore: 0 X-Renater-Ptge-SpamCause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrfeefgddutdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucftgffptefvgfftnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepgggtgffkfffhvfevufgjfhforhesthhqredtredtudenucfhrhhomheptehlrghinhdrvehotghhrghrugesuhhnihhsthhrrgdrfhhrnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnheptdevffdtuefhieefveegjefhffffffdtuddvgeefuddugffhtefgueffvdfhffegnecukfhppeduleegrddvheegrddvgedurddvhedtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepudelgedrvdehgedrvdeguddrvdehtddphhgvlhhopedufedtrdejledruddurddvgedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeetlhgrihhnrdevohgthhgrrhgusehunhhishhtrhgrrdhfrhdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddprhgtphhtthhopegvmhgrtghsqdhorhhgmhhouggvsehgnhhurdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtohephigrnhhtrghrledvsehpohhsthgvohdrnhgvth Received-SPF: pass client-ip=194.254.240.33; envelope-from=Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr; helo=smtpout01-ext2.partage.renater.fr X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_HELO_IP_MISMATCH=2.368, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: alain.cochard@unistra.fr Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1671014343; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=QvUC2yASWtdUIHhHFBsv5wSW5IElssYBfb7OliDcD0A=; b=Zssf47Wz0eVCz4eWpF6PSJ4G/aEWnrmPJXX0SCreZfd69oX9cfNT/RNMr8UoCMjdfbDJju dVYCo52SN32IZK+cqtFw/luq3bUd/iGOiBeVHcYpglaUdmWw3VovHEXdSFzCeE0r/todtR Bw6samNcZJKAlvkLVi95LXC1vtvI4NYiDFWNm/Kguwk2hDS7FHg/dkvRP0riOe/ds1XR1C 3AWK3AeHVgxDqp2M76SCiyI8jYfn3SnJFDevxAmnwsjW7mqUD+FQw4oM0YJTBp28dxZ5zR FJvZyBtx9qItWAcAoYVCcETQmSfVmtdo74dmtYjFEnlMrJSB/ngoPjD66XHT4Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1671014343; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=H+tQ70WNAUahmp+fVRrOvdSGIzsi0LKedFJzcMM8WKTyH64Mu48Laubky881zcKlBlqjr8 uLoHV0wMF9kPZAVH67CtGFie5qFFEg6m467FdwNRn5rwCY77yfy5VwogvFtJIvR1yabC4S 3a0X5lFUgA+KbMcP9ptZMsQGhGBhrSiTQ75xKv+qFvv/rNIZE6aOd454SJqdjsfagPqS2y YPcwD091aaf+WVjlCClQFLpTuKbX6aJ1V9QO5ViNX6D7qT3wBuXp+Ntj63wNuV/47tiATb D++Z7hAS1iShbkBHx9sc/mEuAFpYqHMmypvufeuhE2zhWy3y7jISnz4puejFKA== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.27 X-Spam-Score: -0.27 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7546D8D33 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none X-TUID: b1X9EKmqSpge Ihor Radchenko writes on Wed 14 Dec 2022 07:55: > This particular note is largely aiming at new users not too > familiar with Emacs system. > [...] =20 > Note, however, that org-goto is probably not the only place where we= > refer to a customization that is not loaded by default. I am unsure = how > many places like this exist =20 I am not taking any side regarding the point Max brought up, but your comment about new users surprises me. I am a long time Emacs user, but it is the 1st time (Org mode or otherwise) that 'C-h v' with the cursor on a variable's name fails. Reading again section 2.3, I really don't see that I could have guessed about loading org-goto. So if it is not the "only place", I bet it is relatively rare, and I fear that I will have forgotten about it if the same thing happens again to me in 3 years. --=20 EOST (=C9cole et Observatoire des Sciences de la Terre)=20 ITE (Institut Terre & Environnement) | alain.cochard@unistra.fr 5 rue Ren=E9 Descartes [bureau 110] | Phone: +33 (0)3 68 85 50 44=20= F-67084 Strasbourg Cedex, France | [ slot available for rent ]