From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: latex checkboxes Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:33:53 -0400 Message-ID: <24901.1308324833@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> References: <16524.1308266941@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> <87sjr87g09.fsf@gmail.com> <24011.1308317975@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> <87fwn87dzu.fsf@gmail.com> <24284.1308320091@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52253) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QXb3m-00027m-6t for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:34:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QXb3k-0005k0-7c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:34:13 -0400 Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.9]:37641) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QXb3j-0005jl-Ba for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:34:11 -0400 Received: from alphaville.dokosmarshall.org ([unknown] [173.76.32.106]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LMX003OIXWIKX80@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:33:59 -0500 (CDT) In-reply-to: Message from Skip Collins of "Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:45:07 EDT." List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Skip Collins Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Skip Collins wrote: > >> Then, what about setting :cbtrans to "\\texttt{[-]}" and > >> `org-export-latex-list-parameters' to nil, instead of "$\\boxminus$" and > >> '(:cbon "$\\boxtimes$" :cboff "$\\Box$"), respectively? > >> > > > > I'm fine with that - Skip? Tom? Others? If this does end up being the case, > > then Skip's \parbox method can be integrated into Tom's LaTeX tutorial > > or as a separate hack on Worg. > > Adding configurability for cbon, cboff, and cbtrans is the most important thing. > > Philosophically, the whole point of exporting to LaTeX or HTML is to > take a plain text representation of lists, checkboxes, etc., and turn > it into a nice presentation format. So I don't quite agree that the > LaTeX output should mirror the appearance of the org file with a > monospaced font. If so, then logically list bullets should be exported > as hyphens. My preference would be that the default LaTeX (and html) > outputs should use the features of those formats to make the output > look nice. Within reason, of course. > I agree of course, particularly with the last sentence. The question is: is there some other reasonable default that will satisfy most people's needs without requiring them to customize? I'm not too worried about the perfection hounds: they will customize mercilessly and they will complain if they cannot customize - and I think they (you!) will be happy with the current solutions. If people vote for \parbox as the default, I'm perfectly happy with that. The current default however is indeed ugly and needs to be changed: I think we all agree with you on that. I'll try to run the same org file through the two different defaults and put up some PDFs so people can look at them, but I won't get to it till late tomorrow. Nick