From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id kPukHxhB22PECAEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 05:50:32 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id KAysHxhB22NUTwAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 05:50:32 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD9DD3F7F0 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 05:50:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNRXX-0003KP-Bs; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 23:49:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNRXV-0003Jv-HH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 23:49:37 -0500 Received: from relay-egress-host.us-east-2.a.mail.umich.edu ([18.217.159.240] helo=equal-nisien.relay-egress.a.mail.umich.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNRXT-0000bj-1p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 23:49:36 -0500 Received: from social-orc.authn-relay.a.mail.umich.edu (ip-10-0-74-131.us-east-2.compute.internal [10.0.74.131]) by equal-nisien.relay-egress.a.mail.umich.edu with ESMTPS id 63DB40D9.3325EF2D.51F4312B.2336009; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 23:49:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=umich.edu; s=relay-2018-08-29; t=1675313369; bh=Z4KxH6BJVdYkA6F7FqiW78iRkDo1+eccCoxt9QfTz28=; h=To:cc:From:Subject:In-reply-to:References:Date; b=WgTPhSiKnFbTnScy80ODGbamj70dJBqEw9KinuUtqnQbSg1apXL+hvWDZHtTgxbpb HOzRAMl5S+pYp5zQM/0CtWjf+mFCL9zIMjQpimJlsxkvHmoQ8Uu9wXuPflKw7iRw1/ T0CAD4DAI7umuVa69cZyzVnhbqOfVdqJ4SgKthO1KDKfw/oR8buQ2lxET7L9YChjd9 IOkK8+H4MKFVduTWANNU/HytoNB0ApKy3vQxuOZWh9N90areJD+leAILCoGSnlBF/8 4+898An1GeadCO7+/xwVD9T3GbAWbjJkpqdYJAsB6hX4lj7nYJwFaZSWyTbg853Ivu 25FYuefBze6og== Received: from localhost (unknown [178.240.198.233]) by social-orc.authn-relay.a.mail.umich.edu with ESMTPSA id 63DB40D8.13C17195.4DD51149.2122604; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 23:49:28 -0500 To: tomas@tuxteam.de cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Greg Minshall Subject: Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda) In-reply-to: References: <63c9d976.620a0220.a7d40.113b@mx.google.com> <87tu0mjb24.fsf@tsdye.online> <63ca1283.170a0220.5bc81.0fdd@mx.google.com> <87pmb9k8oi.fsf@tsdye.online> <3035CDD5-41DD-4516-9E4E-9E0DF16BE2E0@gmail.com> <87lelo8c9r.fsf@localhost> <2150768.1675077958@archlinux> <87tu063ox2.fsf@localhost> <2282728.1675191369@archlinux> <874js5lfg3.fsf@localhost> Comments: In-reply-to message dated "Wed, 01 Feb 2023 13:52:14 +0100." 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I read @ as a sigil [1] ... > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_(computer_programming) i'll try to get my head around the sigils (but appreciate that either way is valid). cheers, Greg