Re: export to html and relative links:

[Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>]

On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:32 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
> file:// urls are already designed to be platform independent.
> So an org file should never carry in it a path like a\\b\\c.html
> -- we should always use a/b/c.html
> since that's the syntax used by relative URLs.


Yes, but while an Org file is still an Org file, the same
links function is links to open the corresponding file in
Emacs, and my fear is that this can lead to conflicts.

Anyway, this is for the windows people to complain about
and to propose solutions... :-)

- Carsten

>
>
>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>    Carsten> Hi Raman, On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:48 PM, T. V. Raman
>    Carsten> wrote:
>    Carsten>
>>> two suggestions:
>>>
>>> 1) accept paths like "./foo.html" as local links.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> I will look into this.  The problem is the system
>    Carsten> dependence of file names, so I am not sure what a
>    Carsten> good solution would be that would work on Windows as
>    Carsten> well as on Unix.
>    Carsten>
>>> 2) Augment C-c C-l to react to file: by providing filename
>>> completion relative to the working directory.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Hmm, that is difficult, but thanks for the pointer,
>    Carsten> maybe we can steel some code.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> For now, if you use `C-u C-c C-l', you get file
>    Carsten> completion, and the result will be a "file:" link
>    Carsten> with a relative path (unless you enter a path
>    Carsten> starting with "/").  Even if you find the file with
>    Carsten> ../../../some/path, it will still be inserted as a
>    Carsten> relative link.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> - Carsten
>    Carsten>
>>>
>>
>> The emacs binding to the w3m browser does this if you type
>>> file: in the minibuffer when prompted for a URL.
>>>
>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
>>>>>>>> writes:
>    Carsten> Hmmmm, this is *such* a good idea, that I will
>    Carsten> implement this retroactively into all versions since
>    Carsten> ... 2.0 or so?  Abracadabra! Done.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> In fact, it has been working just so for a very long
>    Carsten> time.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> file:foo.html -> href="foo.html" file:foo.org ->
>    Carsten> href="foo.html"
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> The second line assumes that the org file foo.org
>    Carsten> will also be converted to an html file in the
>    Carsten> publishing process....
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Also, I was mistaken earlier:
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> http:foo.html becomes href="http:foo.html" and not
>    Carsten> href="foo.html"
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> so this actually cannot be used for a local link.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> So what remains from this exchange?  Should we
>    Carsten> accept links that look like absolute file names
>    Carsten> (including ./foo.html) as equivalent to
>    Carsten> file:./foo.html ?
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> - Carsten
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:25 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
>    Carsten>
>>>>>
>>> I think writing http:foo.html is a bad idea because typing
>>>>> that string in other contexts is sort of meaningless as
>>>>> a URL.  Until now, everything one types in org-mode sort
>>>>> of has meaning elsewhere. If you want it to look like a
>>>>> url in this case too then I'd suggest file:foo.html --
>>>>> rther than http:file.html.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not suggest that earlier because it's more chars
>>>>> to type, but that's not a huge concern since emacs does
>>>>> the typing, and we could always augment c-c c-l to
>>>>> enable authoring of relative links with file completion.
>>>>>
>>>>> so file:a/b/c.html would become href="a/b/c.html" in the
>>>>> generated html.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik
>>>>>>>>>> <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 5:33 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
>    Carsten>
>>>>>>> I've not tried http:foo.html -- but I suggest doing
>>>>>>> that to author a relative URL is a bad idea.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Can you explain why you think that this is a bad
>    Carsten> idea?  Educate me!  What is wrong with writing
>    Carsten> http:foo.html ??????
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> - Carsten
>    Carsten>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried ./foo.html and that didn't work either. One
>>>>>>> compromise would be to get ./foo.html to link to a
>>>>>>> relative url, while foo.html continues to link to a
>>>>>>> local anchor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik
>>>>>>>>>>>> <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:49 AM, T. V. Raman wrote:
>    Carsten>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org-export turns links of the form [[foo][link to
>>>>>>>>> relative url foo]]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ends up creating links of the form <a
>>>>>>>>> href="#foo">...</a>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this means that it becomes impossible to write
>>>>>>>>> hyperlinks that are relative URLs.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Hi Raman,
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> the url goes into the first pair of square brackets,
>    Carsten> the description into the second.  If you put
>    Carsten> something into the first bracket pair that does not
>    Carsten> look lie a url, it will be treated as an internal
>    Carsten> link.
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> Have you tried to use something like
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> [[http:foo.html][link to relative url]]
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> ?
>    Carsten>
>    Carsten> - Carsten
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