From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:08:11 +0200 Message-ID: <211416c7599f5c2a86390cc2777767a3@science.uva.nl> References: <20071016141902.GB3018@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <4714E142.2020805@calicojack.co.uk> <20071016162258.GD3018@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <31bb7adf294a7376468be556e699bb6b@science.uva.nl> <4715D11F.4060903@calicojack.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IiYAR-0007jH-1T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:24:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IiYAP-0007j5-HL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:24:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiYAP-0007j2-Bi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:24:13 -0400 Received: from korteweg.uva.nl ([146.50.98.70]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IiYAO-0002AR-UM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:24:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4715D11F.4060903@calicojack.co.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rick Moynihan Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:08, Rick Moynihan wrote: > Carsten Dominik wrote: >> On Oct 16, 2007, at 18:22, Adam Spiers wrote: >>> Rick Moynihan (rick@calicojack.co.uk) wrote: >>>> Adam Spiers wrote: >>>> This seems like a good idea. Another related one occurred to me >>>> today >>>> (if it's necessary) which is toggling between the two list >>>> indicators. >>>> >>>> e.g. >>>> >>>> - foo >>>> - bar >>>> - baz |<-- Point >> This cammand does exist, it is `C-c -'. > > Excellent. I'd forgotten there were so many list types/styles though, > it seems that this might be better on some kind of cycle (like the > priority cookies). I don't know what key binding you could use > though. Could holding CTRL and using the arrows up/down work? I guess S-left/right would be quite natural for this. OK. > >> When you are in a list, M-RET makes the next list item, C-u M-RET >> makes >> the next section, and C-RET does the same - even if for different >> reasons. >> In what sense does M-RET not DWYM? > > Speaking for myself I think the issue is that M-RET is a common habit > for creating a series of either list-items or outlines. The problem > arises when you are under an outline and press M-RET it creates a new > outline, when you really wanted to start a list. Hence having a > convenient toggle here to turn an outline to a list/vice-versa might > be handy. Perhaps the C-c - binding (or perhaps a cyclical one) could > be used to include the current outline level in the cycle. This > binding would then also obviously be applicable on outlines, allowing > them to be converted from outline to list. I like `C-c -' to convert from a heading to a list item. Very nice. Thanks. I don't really think we need the other way round though, you can use C-u M-RET or C-RET to directly get a heading from within a list. - Carsten