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Conversation is above my head, but just in case it could be helpful, I would like to address a frequent problem in the workflow of taking notes, that advanced users suffer too. When taking notes, it's usual to make some bibliographical references in one file and some related notes in a different file. I link both using internal links, but it can't be exported directly as a bibliography, which would be cool indeed. Could a citation act as a link, or a link to be exported as a citation? An example, could the link "[[id:20210607T083216.726761][...]]" be substituted by a cite, that takes you to the reference? *Reference (from a .org file, as it is, but if it needed to had /.bib structure/ to kind of "unify" internal links and cites, would be fine too):* **** William Denton [wtd@pobox.com]. (29 Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0400 (EDT)). /About exporting [Respuesta en emacs-orgmode]./ Lista de correo. :PROPERTIES: :ID:       20210607T083216.726761 :END: :LINKS: - [[id:20210607T083216.765049][Memoir could be flexible,]] :END: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-03/msg00443.html To get better at it, I'd recommend reading the manual for the Memoir class [1] (the first few chapters that talk about page design, at least, then refer to the rest as needed) and Robert Bringhurst's THE ELEMENTS OF TYPOGRAPHIC STYLE [2] (which will give you ideas you can implement and right away your documents will look great). Bill [1] https://www.ctan.org/pkg/memoir [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style *Note (it could be a task, or a study note, or a note to write a book in the future...):* **** Memoir could be flexible, take a look at it. :PROPERTIES: :ID:       20210607T083216.765049 :END: :LINKS: - [[id:20210607T083216.726761][William Denton [wtd@pobox.com]. (29 Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0400 (EDT)). /About exporting [Respuesta en emacs-orgmode]./ Lista de correo.]] :END: --------------D8A22EEA19A2B05C45608926 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've been reading you about cites. Conversation is above my head, but just in case it could be helpful, I would like to address a frequent problem in the workflow of taking notes, that advanced users suffer too.

When taking notes, it's usual to make some bibliographical references in one file and some related notes in a different file. I link both using internal links, but it can't be exported directly as a bibliography, which would be cool indeed.

Could a citation act as a link, or a link to be exported as a citation?

An example, could the link "[[id:20210607T083216.726761][...]]" be substituted by a cite, that takes you to the reference?

Reference (from a .org file, as it is, but if it needed to had .bib structure to kind of "unify" internal links and cites, would be fine too):

**** William Denton [wtd@pobox.com]. (29 Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0400 (EDT)). /About exporting [Respuesta en emacs-orgmode]./ Lista de correo.
:PROPERTIES:
:ID:       20210607T083216.726761
:END:
:LINKS:
- [[id:20210607T083216.765049][Memoir could be flexible,]]
:END:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-03/msg00443.html
To get better at it, I'd recommend reading the manual for the Memoir class [1]
(the first few chapters that talk about page design, at least, then refer to the
rest as needed) and Robert Bringhurst's THE ELEMENTS OF TYPOGRAPHIC STYLE [2]
(which will give you ideas you can implement and right away your documents will
look great).

Bill

[1] https://www.ctan.org/pkg/memoir
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style



Note (it could be a task, or a study note, or a note to write a book in the future...):

**** Memoir could be flexible, take a look at it.
:PROPERTIES:
:ID:       20210607T083216.765049
:END:
:LINKS:
- [[id:20210607T083216.726761][William Denton [wtd@pobox.com]. (29 Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0400 (EDT)). /About exporting [Respuesta en emacs-orgmode]./ Lista de correo.]]
:END:

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