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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664260197; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=l0T3NPIOt2qmO4E5EXO0D4XTWlSQRHCB64TaAvybunQ=; b=Mikq80Wa+hYRyUuPc5VvbxPo1xtIMH/olz8tfU7eQ5EjZoEyi5vQXJOh9Qq1pKY0KknYbW ofl1LSvqRcjm1vqKKJERdqh5JYnuN6UxMIL4GzL6Ig5udH+3JguVwP8j2a3/o+89SthN3R ZMoTJVSLBsw3TPcNd3qPAosRdjssJchS+wZq5B+23412DG60DHMBRLl3fXZp2MCPh9AA8j i22FdQxUyI8JwdOHE/HmvPYI8bEFQRrXvIzes/CKwXTwTYiRQrtOyyPFjzapLX5tm+l0Vn kM5j7xLRT2FzP1TqX0U1MlXoaSZNnnRNATjZA76uIBgJLAyPsifOtQfzqNSUqQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664260197; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CmsFl0adeCPAYUcGKjL0zfJ2i4yPdB8nuBnOkOwBw+QhJp7u+aHJiQwQtMMMrMKDECTHTp Obt/9dN1IUHHEMuzb4ovAa7E0mwCG9ECUVt8qbaLaZrOlrq6MNSbDLnEY7f5eFKdI3UF/t c+rwG9hqkRrnEhfbjzXcRClBZ4txEtQ+J5SlsdEiJf1kEdgbRx/w1jV2CeSa1UfiXG4EoN U3fHHhEOLqp+9rGeF/VKaqY05TH4EH1DOZP8+4Kmea7eVYKQ8GXTLRARQbfTvwN7ZaGAxz 8fssGH/E1QVZAhSq22H4ZqRiQSwYlfIv8X9L4GacJL9z+iyAzmt4AqoEZHjqNg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8C24D1B98A X-Spam-Score: 0.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: vCym82aVtHEg On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 01:10:49 +1000 Matt Beshara wrote: > > ^L is not a part of Org specification for paragraph separators. > > According to=20 > > https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html#Paragraphs, > > paragraph boundaries should either be empty lines, or beginning=20 > > of other > > Org elements. =20 >=20 > Fair enough. If the consensus from others is that ^L should be=20 > recognised as a paragraph separator and the code is eventually=20 > written to make that work, that would be nice, but as it stands I=20 > can just start adding newlines after ^L. >=20 > Thanks for your work on Org mode! > Matt >=20 Actually ^L is a *page* separator (to be exact =E2=80=9CFORM FEED=E2=80=9D). Best regards Robert