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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1624738412; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=7SXi2JGyXLs7djpsHmUubrDpIikv/KK3b9D157TUXFA=; b=GigP4bLgHVZUHnmS/VEuRjKoeZrVP3SFeUUX9OFDkWn7MjAd2oN1MpGEZq9Rr0b2cBbF0i E8FzDcbO4bnsxUGBOirUXzlPb4sO1wP7Y1swGBghpqY6yYGVzE8oePeJgwWduPOIjTpVwD xM3QS9ZKOZyAAVzLKoYaCybIGVRe8i0g944Lx94D5IYeU+G3y5MnuFA3pzv2xaaZpzSXi3 5Je97qQUqbez8YJrhkt+q77OZ9tp322iPeUTyPAGj+X+2tmax9YvRti3at5wjDVPKq5Xtr 1zRFFPRA2psqeHq80VRUnxlkIB7NqtWJb70iwal7x8EyWmMLgrognnjRBRqdog== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1624738412; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=n9vxgEVzMTDgm4AkFg64AeAsNby59lmyO3MoPeLFWsVSBN1j1uPlpCGDJOoYK4mlWTVAKt HfOxHORDcvNE/7GenxNPwdhP0W8Ht+kBhXTOJ5iXH+Ro1pKNGrMUuY2bONRAQ3QfHHl6eR 9VFpFYd5I07oeIDLh78SQHKpRuodk6VFJgBvvmQf9dQ7vsL+i+GTXlFxUW7MZycVrltdY+ kspMam/NfKQYU+nlSx43pf6RXqNBU/plkTLu3ra871xd2bV/RzW3ISAc4AT8rzX7CesZqO 2Ko0l4h8icHbKVRqQkUKD0Lagb7qTogevQ0neEN2JnVKXSOHnZ1wOGfEqmQ7Wg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=dpaNACxI; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.73 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=dpaNACxI; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 63AAC139DD X-Spam-Score: -4.73 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: tHLyYCaDmwOO --u65IjBhB3TIa72Vp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 09:49:02PM +0200, Marcin Borkowski wrote: >=20 > On 2021-06-26, at 21:18, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 04:27:19PM +0000, Brandon Taylor wrote: > >> I=E2=80=99ve seen that LibreOffice can read and write to those formats= , whereas OpenOffice can only read them. Or has OpenOffice overcome that pa= rticular barrier? > > > > I think OpenOffice is practically dead. All interesting development > > happens in LibreOffice, at least for the last ten years. Heck, it > > was practically dead 2015. > > > > It is a long, sad story. Currently I wouldn't even bet on OpenOffice > > not having unpatched critical security bugs. >=20 > Out of curiosity: why sad? I've been using OpenOffice many years ago > (StarOffice earlier), now I'm using LibreOffice. Wasn't that basically > a rename? The sad part, in a few words, is that OpenOffice still kept the "brand recognition", but is basically unmaintained at this point. Many users (especially in Windows land, the Linus ones seem to know) are still lured by the brand to download and use unmaintained software. It is as if Oracle, by donating OpenOffice to the Apache Software Foundatio= n, wanted to sabotage free office software. But why? Cheers [1] https://pctechmag.com/2011/06/oracle-and-openoffice-the-final-insult/ - t --u65IjBhB3TIa72Vp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAmDXijsACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbXTgCdHY/va4wLBnw4S4aAFgC6xhZi 9IUAn1d/AIOqRlE2IzpRYW44xWF2Foys =ey6o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u65IjBhB3TIa72Vp--