org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

[Marcin Borkowski]

Hi list,

what is the difference between these two options?

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University

Re: org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

[Subhan Michael Tindall]

Try
C-h v org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date
C-h v org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

There are substantial differences between the two.
org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date, when set, ignores all dates, and overrides org-agenda-todo-ignore-{scheduled|deadline}
org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp is more configurable to ignore past, future, all,  or {-}N days in the past or future

Hope this helps!

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> 
> Hi list,
> 
> what is the difference between these two options?
> 
> Best,
> 
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Adam Mickiewicz University


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Re: org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

[Marcin Borkowski]

Dnia 2014-08-22, o godz. 15:41:34
Subhan Michael Tindall <SubhanT@familycareinc.org> napisał(a):

> Try
> C-h v org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date
> C-h v org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

That's where I started;).

> There are substantial differences between the two.
> org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date, when set, ignores all dates, and
> overrides org-agenda-todo-ignore-{scheduled|deadline}
> org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp is more configurable to ignore past,
> future, all,  or {-}N days in the past or future

Doesn't this suggest that org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date is
obsolete?

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University

Re: org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

[Subhan Michael Tindall]

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> [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+subhant=familycareinc.org@gnu.org] On
> Behalf Of Marcin Borkowski
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 11:54 AM
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: [O] org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-
> ignore-timestamp
> 
> Dnia 2014-08-22, o godz. 15:41:34
> Subhan Michael Tindall <SubhanT@familycareinc.org> napisał(a):
> 
> > Try
> > C-h v org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date C-h v
> > org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp
> 
> That's where I started;).
> 
> > There are substantial differences between the two.
> > org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date, when set, ignores all dates, and
> > overrides org-agenda-todo-ignore-{scheduled|deadline}
> > org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp is more configurable to ignore past,
> > future, all,  or {-}N days in the past or future
> 
> Doesn't this suggest that org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date is obsolete?
It's functionality is subsumed by org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp all, yes.
I believe it was either added or expanded considerably fairly recently.  Who knows what would break if you removed it though?


> 
> Best,
> 
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Adam Mickiewicz University


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Re: org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

[Marcin Borkowski]

Dnia 2014-08-22, o godz. 21:02:56
Subhan Michael Tindall <SubhanT@familycareinc.org> napisał(a):

> > Doesn't this suggest that org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date is
> > obsolete?
> It's functionality is subsumed by org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp
> all, yes. [...]

Well, except that it isn't.  A quick experiment on my agenda showed
that setting org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp gave more TODOs in the
global TODO list than setting org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date.  I can
run further experiments to pinpoint the difference, but maybe somebody
just *knows* that?

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University

Re: org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date vs. org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp

[Sebastien Vauban]

Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> Dnia 2014-08-22, o godz. 21:02:56
> Subhan Michael Tindall <SubhanT-9nmdUVC+4n0jQ4uZmXbmENi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org> napisał(a):
>
>> > Doesn't this suggest that org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date is
>> > obsolete?
>> It's functionality is subsumed by org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp
>> all, yes. [...]
>
> Well, except that it isn't.  A quick experiment on my agenda showed
> that setting org-agenda-todo-ignore-timestamp gave more TODOs in the
> global TODO list than setting org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date.  I can
> run further experiments to pinpoint the difference, but maybe somebody
> just *knows* that?

Adding a personal note from my customizations file:

  ╭────
  │ If you don't want to show scheduled items, deadlines nor appointments in
  │ lists, you can use either
  │
  │ - `(org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date t)' or
  │ - `(org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'scheduled 'deadline 'timestamp))'.
  │
  │ Though, we could make a performance comparison to see whether one is quicker
  │ than the other.
  ╰────

Best regards,
  Seb

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Sebastien Vauban