From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Suvayu Ali Subject: Re: Outline cycling does not preserve point's position Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:50:57 +0200 Message-ID: <20130910085057.GQ20690@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> References: <87li365ixg.fsf@gmail.com> <87d2oi57fg.fsf@gmail.com> <7CB7B681-DD2E-446C-AE45-DDCA204EE95C@gmail.com> <5855E8E1-9730-4A29-89FF-E35C64E54EDD@gmail.com> <20130910073257.GO20690@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <20130910075345.GP20690@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <25A21DB7-B2E5-47BB-8A64-594A15CB24B8@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59491) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJJfB-0005je-Fx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 04:51:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJJf3-0007iv-2G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 04:51:09 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::232]:57804) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJJf2-0007ip-Qy for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 04:51:00 -0400 Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id d51so3720233eek.9 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 01:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:16:06AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > The question is: What are people using C-arrow for? > > I think the main application is reasonably fast motion > and selection in a *linear* way. Is this correct, or do people > disagree here with me? I use it for navigating a buffer (not necessarily Org) linearly; i.e. go back and forth between parts I'm working on or to peruse the contents of a file. That said, often I feel the need for a navigation command which allows me to navigate the semantics of the buffer (which exactly what Nicolas's elements based navigation does). > The amazing element motion commands Nicolas has implement > correspond to sexp motion, as he has said himself. > Maybe C-M-f and C-M-b are the better binding match for these? I think you are right here. There is a need for both. For me, I use linear navigation more commonly; so I would prefer C- for linear navigation and some other bindings (like C-M-f/b, as you suggest) for the elements based motion. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.