From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Gunnar Wolf Subject: Re: converting people to Emacs and org-mode Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: <20130409144220.GB115357@gwolf.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35915) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPZkg-0004Vr-6M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:42:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPZkc-0004FS-TJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:42:26 -0400 Received: from lafa.iiec.unam.mx ([132.248.72.141]:58834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UPZkc-0004Eb-NW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:42:22 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: 42 147 Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org 42 147 dijo [Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:10:07AM -0400]: >=20 > Hello mailing list, >=20 > This might be considered off-topic. >=20 > The question is the title: have you been able to convert many people to > Emacs / org-mode? Are converts all programmers, or those versed in > programming? -- Or have you converted non-programmers, e.g., anyone who > edits text for a living? > (...) I won't talk about the people I have (not yet) converted, but about the person who converted me: I am a long-time Emacs user (got initiated back in 1983, being 6 or 7 years old, at the university where my father worked, works, and where I now work as well). We spent many Friday nights at the terminal room, he was working on some proceedings book compilation and I was getting exposed to computers when few had chance. So, yes, I got started on TeX and Emacs at quite an early age. And they deformed my mind forever, it seems. One of the factors that led me to switch to a Linux environment in the mid-90s was that both tools I cherished (but hadn't touched in almost ten years) were readily available. And while I did nothing with TeX for many years (using LyX for the occasional writeup), Emacs became very early part of my sysadmin tools, and later, my programming buddy. Still more years passed. Between 2009 and 2011, I edited a book for the university =E2=80=94 =C2=ABConstrucci=C3=B3n colaborativa del conocim= iento=C2=BB, studying the free software / free culture movements. The process was most interesting, but quite painful - We did the inter-author collaboration using a Web framework, and it was up to me to convert the final version to LaTeX and typeset it adequately. In the end, we got quite a good result=C2=B9, which you can download if you find interesting (written in Spanish). Talking about the woes in the conversion, an anthropologist (and a very good friend of mine) suggested me to take a look at org-mode. I had previously just heard about it and dismissed it because I can perfectly do without yet-another-todo-list-manager (which is what I thought Org was). But after he showed me the ease with which he writes his articles and was halfway through his doctoral thesis, intermixing LaTeX bits, exporting to PDF and HTML, easily producing the Beamer slides I took so much pride in having mastered... I got converted right away. That was just six months ago. I now write all of my articles and presentations in Org, and am halfway through (yet another) book. =C2=B9 http://seminario.edusol.info/