From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcin Borkowski Subject: Re: Agenda in MobileOrg for Android Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 23:41:04 +0200 Message-ID: <20130407234104.48d1a07f@aga-netbook> References: <20130324025258.521fa38a@aga-netbook> <20130407151332.218212de@aga-netbook> <867gkeavnd.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOxKv-0000Lr-2k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:41:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOxKn-0008Tf-07 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:41:17 -0400 Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([2001:808:114:2::50]:51822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOxKm-0008TX-Pe for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:41:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3899A44DC8 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 23:41:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nGmUz5W48N4X for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 23:41:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aga-netbook (jedenzero5-dziewiecosiem.echostar.pl [213.156.105.98]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0907A44DC3 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 23:41:06 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <867gkeavnd.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Dnia 2013-04-07, o godz. 14:16:54 David Rogers napisa=C5=82(a): > Marcin Borkowski writes: >=20 > > the key seems to be "too hard to use efficiently"... I am afraid > > that MobileOrg for Android) is indeed much more difficult to use > > than the Emacs version. The strength of Org is that it is easy to > > use (and efficient in terms of keystrokes etc.). > > > > I am just wondering... What is the rationale behind all the syncing > > stuff? Assume that I have all my org files dropboxed - why not just > > edit them directly in the mobile version? I was thinking about it > > for some time, and can't see any disadvantages with this approach. > > In fact, since I'm considering learning to write Android apps, I am > > very much tempted to use an "org-lite" app (say, just TODOs or > > capture for the beginning) as my first project. >=20 > I have felt the same way. Is the reason it's not already done (and the > pitfall for you if you take on a project like this) that "re-write > major chunks of Emacs" is a pretty big job? Well, it seems that it actually *is* done, though not for a touchscreen: I hear that Vimperator supports some subset of Org's functionality in Vim. Remember that the purpose of something like such an app (as opposed to Org-mode proper) would not be *editing* of text, but (primarily) *entering* texts (and short ones, for that matter), entering timestamps (which is quite convenient with any pointing device, including touchscreens) and things like changing todo states and clocking in and out - and that's basically it. In other words, a very small subset of Org-mode is needed here (at least for me). > There is already Emacs ported to Android; it isn't very convenient nor > working that well yet IMO. Maybe that project could use some help to > make it work well enough to use for this?? I don't think so. I'm not a usability expert, but the UI philosophies behind a keyboard and a touchscreen seem to be so different that this doesn't seem to make much sense. Regards, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University