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From: Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Nice blog post - Org-mode in Your Pocket Is a GNU-Shaped Devil
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:37:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130405123751.GF631@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ppy9uswv.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca>

Hey François,

On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 07:18:56AM -0400, François Pinard wrote:
> Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > For me it is the other way around.  I want to couple with Emacs more
> > closely, but Gnus prevents me from doing so.  A few gripes follow.
> 
> > 1. Emacs is single threaded, so a network interruption while reading my
> >    email over IMAP means my emacs server is stuck!
> 
> It would be so appealing if Emacs was really using threading for its
> windows.  Tom Tromey seems to be making a very courageous attempt at it,
> but is still hitting various problems and walls.  I wonder if he will
> succeed at the end.

I'm dying for Emacs to be multi-threaded in the future.  Email is just
one task affected by this.  My biggest problem is using tramp over
unreliable connections.  e.g. I want to edit my remote org files with
the latest and greatest of org on my laptop!  I often have to work on
remote machines behind internal gateways (that's 3 ssh hops away!).  I
do save my notes/tasks in org files there, but cannot edit them
optimally because emacs on these nodes is some crappy old version.

> > 2. Oh that's easy to solve, use maildirs (sync with OfflineIMAP).  That
> >    does not work well because Gnus uses its own flags (an example where
> >    Gnus actually breaks standards)!  There are some hacks around that
> >    out in the wild, so let's let it slide.
> > 3. Gnus stores some meta information/cache for maildirs in a .nnmaildir
> >    folder *inside* the maildir directory tree!
> >      maildir
> >      ├── .nnmaildir
> >      ├── cur
> >      ├── new
> >      └── tmp
> >    I do not know how, but this supposed meta information or cache takes
> >    about 2/3 of disk space as the original maildir!  Obviously that is a
> >    problem for large mailboxes.
> 
> I never really studies IMAP, and use it rather naively, so I take your
> word about Gnus not being straight about it.  Sorry to hear that.  I've
> not been bitten yet, or maybe I'm just too naive to know.

Ah I think you misunderstood me.  My solution above was to move from
IMAP to Maildir so the reliance on a live network connection is gone.
Gnus screws it up when dealing with _Maildir_ flags.

Now back to work and more on topic threads.  ;)

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-05 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-04  9:28 Nice blog post - Org-mode in Your Pocket Is a GNU-Shaped Devil Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-04  9:55 ` Russell Adams
2013-04-04  9:59 ` Christian Moe
2013-04-04 10:57   ` Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-04 11:48     ` François Pinard
2013-04-04 12:12       ` Bastien
2013-04-04 16:39         ` Haider Rizvi
2013-04-05 23:10           ` Bastien
2013-04-05 10:59         ` François Pinard
2013-04-04 12:41       ` Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-04 17:41       ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-05 11:18         ` François Pinard
2013-04-05 12:37           ` Suvayu Ali [this message]
2013-04-05 21:28         ` Gareth Smith
2013-04-05 22:25           ` Eric Schulte

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