Hide some timestamp repetitions; timestamp property in agenda

Hide some timestamp repetitions; timestamp property in agenda

[Jarmo Hurri]

Greetings.

I am pretty sure that the following can be done, I just do not know how.

1. In general I want to see repeated timestamps, TODOs etc. appear at
   every repeat, so I need to have the value of
   org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all set to t. However, for *some*
   repeated timestamps I would only like to see only the next repeated
   instance. How do I accomplish this?

2. I have some events that take place multiple times in a week. This is
   easy to accomplish:

   * Learn something new about org-mode
     <2013-10-05 Sat 17:00-18:00 +1w>
     <2013-10-06 Sun 12:00-14:00 +1w>

   However, I would also like to associate, with each of these
   timestamps, a different piece of text. Most often this text is a
   location. I want to see this text in my agenda. How can this be done?

I would also like to say that org is gradually allowing me to better
control an increasing proportion of my activities.

All the best,

Jarmo

recurring events with different notes for each occurrence (was: Hide some timestamp repetitions; timestamp property in agenda)

[Karl Voit]

* Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@syk.fi> wrote:
>
> Greetings.

Hi Jarmo!

> I am pretty sure that the following can be done, I just do not know how.

Is there a T-Shirt with this sentence available somewhere? *SCNR*

> 1. In general I want to see repeated timestamps, TODOs etc. appear at
>    every repeat, so I need to have the value of
>    org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all set to t. However, for *some*
>    repeated timestamps I would only like to see only the next repeated
>    instance. How do I accomplish this?

Sorry, no idea but interested as well.

> 2. I have some events that take place multiple times in a week. This is
>    easy to accomplish:
>
>    * Learn something new about org-mode
>      <2013-10-05 Sat 17:00-18:00 +1w>
>      <2013-10-06 Sun 12:00-14:00 +1w>
>
>    However, I would also like to associate, with each of these
>    timestamps, a different piece of text. Most often this text is a
>    location. I want to see this text in my agenda. How can this be done?

When I switched to Org-mode I was disappointed on the limited ways
to do recurring events (without sexp): every 2nd Tuesday of a month,
single exceptions, ... not possible.

However, when I was told about org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift
this changed :-) 

Now, I create a recurring event (let's say Linux User Group):

** <2013-10-07 17:00-19:00 +4w> LUGG    @City

(you can even skip the "+4w" here)

Next, I invoke org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift and multiply the
event for the next year or so. This gets me a copy of the event for
each occurrence. Those distinct events I can delete, cancel, move,
add notes to, and so forth.

I like this much better than one heading for all occurrences.

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Re: recurring events with different notes for each occurrence

[Jarmo Hurri]

Greetings Karl.

Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:

> * Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@syk.fi> wrote:
>> 2. I have some events that take place multiple times in a week. This is
>>    easy to accomplish:
>>
>>    * Learn something new about org-mode
>>      <2013-10-05 Sat 17:00-18:00 +1w>
>>      <2013-10-06 Sun 12:00-14:00 +1w>
>>
>>    However, I would also like to associate, with each of these
>>    timestamps, a different piece of text.
>
> Now, I create a recurring event (let's say Linux User Group):
>
> ** <2013-10-07 17:00-19:00 +4w> LUGG    @City
>
> Next, I invoke org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift and multiply the
> event for the next year or so. This gets me a copy of the event for
> each occurrence. Those distinct events I can delete, cancel, move,
> add notes to, and so forth.
>
> I like this much better than one heading for all occurrences.

That will do the work, but as a programmer I must say that I do not
really like this technique, since it involves copying the same
information to a large number of places. If I want to change information
common to all occurrences, I can of course do a replace-string, but
still...

In any case, thanks for the tip! I learned something new, and may have
to resort to using the approach anyway.

Jarmo

Re: recurring events with different notes for each occurrence

[Karl Voit]

* Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@syk.fi> wrote:
>
> Greetings Karl.

Hi!

> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
>
>> org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift
>
> That will do the work, but as a programmer I must say that I do not
> really like this technique, since it involves copying the same
> information to a large number of places. 

:-)

I thought you wanted to get different instances per occurrence in
order to add different notes to it.

As a programmer, I do understand your objection. However, I tend to
have following structure:

    * Events
    ** LUGG meetings                  :LUGG:common:tags:
    
       - common information about this event
    
    *** <...> single occurrence
    *** <...> another occurrence
    [...]

For other purposes, I am also using the following approach:

    * Events
    ** LUGG meetings                  :LUGG:common:tags:
    
       - common information about this event

       - <2013-09-30 Sun 18:00-20:00> 
       - <2013-10-06 Sun 18:00-20:00> 
       - [...]

This is a rather minimal approach and works only if you do show
each time-stamp in your agenda. You can still add notes as a
sub-list to any occurrence. 

However, AFIAK you can not use org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift
with it. (... except by using the first method above and convert the
heading to list items - the opposite to C-c C-*) 

> In any case, thanks for the tip! I learned something new, and may have
> to resort to using the approach anyway.

You're welcome.

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Re: recurring events with different notes for each occurrence

[Jarmo Hurri]

Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:

> As a programmer, I do understand your objection. However, I tend to
> have following structure:
>
>     * Events
>     ** LUGG meetings                  :LUGG:common:tags:
>     
>        - common information about this event
>     
>     *** <...> single occurrence
>     *** <...> another occurrence
>     [...]
>
> For other purposes, I am also using the following approach:
>
>     * Events
>     ** LUGG meetings                  :LUGG:common:tags:
>     
>        - common information about this event
>
>        - <2013-09-30 Sun 18:00-20:00> 
>        - <2013-10-06 Sun 18:00-20:00> 
>        - [...]

I tried to play with these, but did not get the extra info in the
agenda.

Maybe I need to get better acquainted with agendas. Is there a way to
associate a property with each repeating timestamp and show this
property in the agenda? (There most likely is.)

Jarmo

Re: recurring events with different notes for each occurrence

[Karl Voit]

* Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@syk.fi> wrote:
>
> I tried to play with these, but did not get the extra info in the
> agenda.
>
> Maybe I need to get better acquainted with agendas. Is there a way to
> associate a property with each repeating timestamp and show this
> property in the agenda? (There most likely is.)

Try one of these[1]:

;;; http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html
(setq org-agenda-skip-additional-timestamps-same-entry nil)

... most probably fixing your issue IMHO.

;; Show all future entries for repeating tasks
(setq org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all t)

;; Show all agenda dates - even if they are empty
(setq org-agenda-show-all-dates t)



  1. https://github.com/novoid/dot-emacs/blob/master/org-mode.el
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Re: recurring events with different notes for each occurrence

[Jarmo Hurri]

Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:

Greetings again.

>> Is there a way to associate a property with each repeating timestamp
>> and show this property in the agenda? (There most likely is.)
>
> (setq org-agenda-skip-additional-timestamps-same-entry nil)
> ... most probably fixing your issue IMHO.
>
> ;; Show all future entries for repeating tasks
> (setq org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all t)
>
> ;; Show all agenda dates - even if they are empty
> (setq org-agenda-show-all-dates t)

Hmm, I don't think its one of these I might be looking for. But I did
learn some more parameters in this lifelong process. So thanks!

All the best,

Jarmo

Re: Hide some timestamp repetitions; timestamp property in agenda

[Suvayu Ali]

On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:45:28PM +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
> 
> Greetings.
> 
> I am pretty sure that the following can be done, I just do not know how.
> 
> 1. In general I want to see repeated timestamps, TODOs etc. appear at
>    every repeat, so I need to have the value of
>    org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all set to t. However, for *some*
>    repeated timestamps I would only like to see only the next repeated
>    instance. How do I accomplish this?

Maybe habits can help here: (info "(org) Tracking your habits")

-- 
Suvayu

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Re: Hide some timestamp repetitions; timestamp property in agenda

[Jarmo Hurri]

Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:45:28PM +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
>> 1. In general I want to see repeated timestamps, TODOs etc. appear at
>>    every repeat, so I need to have the value of
>>    org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all set to t. However, for
>>    *some* repeated timestamps I would only like to see only the next
>>    repeated instance. How do I accomplish this?
>
> Maybe habits can help here: (info "(org) Tracking your habits")

Yep, that was the solution I was looking for. Thanks!

Jarmo